What does /a/ think of the Nanoha series?
Just finished A's. Was good I guess, but I didn't think it was that much better than first season. What do I watch next?
Either watch StrikerS or the movies. You might want to watch StrikerS first so you don't suffer from animation backlash.
Whoops, meant whiplash, not backlash.
I recently watched all 3 series and really enjoyed them, Nanoha is a certified operator.
Fate is the best thing to ever happen to m̶e̶ N̶a̶n̶o̶h̶a̶ anime.
>whiplash, not backlash.
Not cool man.
Great. Hayate is the best.
It is one of my favorite franchises ever.
Anyone think Tsuzuki might have acquired an age progression fetish recently?
>Vivio turns into an adult in StrikerS, moaning suggestively as she does
>does it frequently in Vivid, along with three other characters
>major villain in Force who looked adult is really this age
Not that I mind, but it's noticeable.
Really good porn but I've never watched the show.
>as Tsuzuki gets older his taste in women does too
In another few decades we'll get granny Nanoha/Fate transformation scenes.
It's probably my favorite franchise. It has little girls, it has explosions, it has magic, it has weapons that speak german, everything is great.
First season was okay. A`s was absolutely amazing and StrikerS is mediocre due to its lack of lolis. A`s actually had a lot of suffering going between the lines which broke my heart. It took me a while to realize that the Administration is essentially an exploitative bureaucracy that employs young girls to commit violence. Awful.
The movies were seriously good, very well-animated. Vivid looks pretty cute although I haven't tried it out yet. I also think that out of all the over-marketed series out there, Nanoha has the best merchandise.
>not reading the porn in the VAs voices
At least watch the movie, Anon.
Movie 3rd when?
I'll watch the series someday, it's just that it seems like it often comes up when I'm looking for porn
That episode where you see the knights' motives gave me a feeling so complicated.
>try to imagine Nanoha's voice
>hear Nui's instead
1st and 2nd season were great.
StrikerS was acceptable.
ViViD and Force are shit.
Needs more BetrayerS.
>Try to hear Nanoha's voice while fapping
>Get Nanoha's mocking voice instead
I'm okay with this.
9/10, not bad. StrikerS was tolerable after training arc drama.
What a coincidence, I just started this. I'm on episode 3. When does Nanoha find out Yuuno isn't a ferret? I think they'd make a cute couple. It's kind of generic collect the macguffin bullshit so far, so I've been thinking about dropping it. Though that blonde girl in the op is this Fate I've heard about? People think highly of her from what I've seen, even though I've avoided as much as I could about this so I don't get spoiled. I'm guessing the popularity is mostly due to her? When does she appear?
Current Nanoha is shit. Its worst combination of moeshit and shounen shit. How do we fix it?
>Completely dump all existing characters and make new story with new characters in same settings
>I think they'd make a cute couple.
I enjoyed when Nanoha shot down Tia.
Wasted potential and it went downhill after A's. StrikerS was average and pretty boring, Force is shit. The best thing to come out of Nanoha in years are the movies and the 1st movie manga.
I like Vita.
7/10, not bad. Pretty good bait.
But you used the term macguffin wrong, and over reached with the "I think they'd make a cute couple".
StrikerS majorly fucked up by not having them meet the villains until halfway through the series. When you send the young trainees out on their mission against what is expected to be easy enemies on their level, you don't ever have it go according to plan - one of the major villains should show up and cause havoc.
A's did it right by having Vita come out of nowhere in the first episode.
>In fiction, a MacGuffin (sometimes McGuffin or maguffin) is a plot device in the form of some goal, desired object, or other motivator that the protagonist pursues
Even if you say they don't count because they have a use, a new watcher who avoided spoilers wouldn't know that.
I'm not following you. Yuuno's obviously the male lead.
I didn't, see >>100095377
Though he also said they're important to the plot, so I probably shouldn't inquire further. I'm not sure what you mean by overreaching.
Yuuno is a supporting character. There Nanoha has no male leads. Even Touma gets shifted to the back.
I'm only replying to bump the thread, I haven't fallen for your bait.
>Yuuno's obviously the male lead.
>What does /a/ think of the Nanoha series?
Every single character needs to be a loli. Every character who isn't a loli needs to fuck right off.
This goes double for former-lolis, including Fate and Nanoha.
LRD pls go.
Yuuno is totally the male who lead Nanoha into becoming a lesbian.
Good job leaving out the key part of the definition
>In fiction, a MacGuffin (sometimes McGuffin or maguffin) is a plot device in the form of some goal, desired object, or other motivator that the protagonist pursues, often with little or no narrative explanation.
Even if we are to assume this person is only on episode three it's fully explained why they are searching for the jewel seeds, as of that point in the story.
If we call this a MacGuffin, we'd have to call all monster of the week, and 'gotta catch all type stories MacGuffin based. Which is wrong.
I'd agree with you LRD if adult Fate wasn't so fucking hot.
>If we call this a MacGuffin, we'd have to call all monster of the week, and 'gotta catch all type stories MacGuffin based.
I don't have a problem with that.
Yeah, it does not matter what you personally think. That's not how the term MacGuffin works.
A macguffin can have an explanation. Note the "often" there. Besides, the reason Nanoha's collecting them at that point is pretty much "they're dangerous." Their real narrative use doesn't come up until later.
Are you really going to try and argue a semantic like that?
By exploiting the use of "often" you could use the term Macguffin to encompass everything ever written.
>argue a semantic
That's literally what we're doing though.
True, NanoFate fans should be thankful to Yuuno since it's his doing that NanoFate happened.
But who we are kidding if Fate character wasn't created as initial antagonist with Nana Mizuki as VA in first season we would never get A's or StrikerS and Nanoha franchise would end on first season and it would be as unsuccessful as TH or that initial proto game.
We can say Nana willed it all.
There's a pretty big difference between arguing the what defines a word, and the definition of a word.
Though I guess it's kind of a given you wouldn't understand that.
>Try to imagine Nanoha's voice
>Get Bern's voice instead
There's a pretty big difference between arguing what defines a word, and the definition of a word.
Though I guess it's kind of a given you wouldn't understand that.
>There's a pretty big difference between arguing what defines a word, and the definition of a word.
This is just getting dumb at this point. At this rate we'll soon be arguing what the definition of is is.
Like I said. It's a given you wouldn't understand it.
You seem to be the one having trouble understanding. This is already in a death spiral of inanity. That's why this is getting dumb. Also, semantics covers both nicely. It's about the meaning conveyed, with words and their definitions are a part of. So once again what we're doing is arguing semantics despite at least one of us recognizing this is stupid and unproductive. Now we're on to arguing over what exactly semantics covers.
Would you both shut the fuck up and post more Nanoha?
Oh, and it still excuse how you implied Macguffin could be used to describe everything.
>What is recursive filtering.
How about just hiding the conversation rather than bitching and making more off topic posts?
The both of you are basically going "no u" now. It's time to end it.
You can post Fate too if you'd like.
I can't really reply with much when their whole comment is empty words.
You can still post something nice to look at.
Eltria spin off when?
6/10 for StrikerS the first half
10/10 for StrikerS when Nanoha starts spamming DB here and there
Make sure you watch the DVD version instead of the TV version.
Great series, fapped countless time to it.
Pretty good! But I've never watched StrikerS yet I only know the characters.
Knowing Subaru should be reason alone to watch it.
Subaru and Teana are so underrated. There's not really enough fan art or doujins of them.
There are many cute and also sexy doujins of these two, even in A la Carte official anthologies you get quite a few stories about them, but no one wants to spare time to translate stories about this couple even if they had more sexual interacion together on screen than NanoFate.
What about the one where they break Nanoha?
I came buckets.
Wasn't it Cyclone futa one?
That guy really should make more works like that, like futa Cypha breaking Signum or Shamal while Signum watches, and then gives in and both dp futa her.
More Arf or Shamal doujins would be nice.
But everyone forgot about them.
Yep. I also completely agree.
I really want to know what it is about Nanoha that attracts so many degenerate futafags.
It can't be just a magical girl thing.
Futa is popular in every fandom
You don't see it as close to as much with other things, like Madoka.
But Futa is terrible.
Yes you do
In fact there are more futa doujins for Madoka than for Nanoha
And there aren't autistic /pol/ rejects like you lurking around
Futa is too vanilla by itself.
Now when it's mixed with corruption or guro, it's much better.
Its still terrible.
>Thinks liking futa is actually acceptable.
Pfft, I laughed pretty hard at this one.
And, no there isn't.
If you consider release date
Go back to facebook please you little chav
>Basing whole argument on false preconceptions.
Not making yourself look any better here, retard. I don't even own a facebook account.
Sorry you have a disgusting fetish that's only accepted by low lifes and degenerates, but that's nothing to get so upset about.
Are you the same anon who protests against futa and het doujins in every Nanoha thread?
But only facebook browsing chavs think anyone cares about what their worthless existence thinks is 'acceptable' and posts about it on an anonymous imageboard
Sorry your uncle raped you and now you have a phobia of dicks but the fact of the matter is that noone gives a shit about your /pol/ autism
hey now, be fair.
(s)he could have /u/ autism, too.
Only /pol/ kiddies use the word "degenerate" though
I really hate how /u/ makes the whole yuri-fanbase look bad.
/u/ is such a shithole.
What the hell is wrong with /u/?
I went there a couple of times and they actually stay on-topic.
No, but you'll just assume I am regardless of what I say.
>More baseless accusations.
People like you are so fun to laugh at. Do you think you could come up with an insult you didn't pull from you imagination?
And dicks are fine. But, futa is for straight up degenerates. Do you honestly think it's normal to want females to have dicks?
Give me a better word that describes you. Because "degenerate" is spot on for what describes futafags.
Agreed. I can't fucking stand /u/, the board is awful and the only recent release thread is worthwhile. And sometimes even that gets ruined by shit like >>>/u/1505535.
If you post in all caps it should be an instant ban.
Wait, what's wrong with futa?
Het is absolute shit though.
Everything is wrong with futa.
I don't want dicks.
>And sometimes even that gets ruined by shit like
But that happens on /a/. Did you somehow miss the whole SAVIOR OF ANIME dealio?
>Do you honestly think it's normal to want females to have dicks?
And if you do, that's why you're a degenerate.>>100110470
There's a rather large difference between doing it ironically and seriously meaning it.
Do you seriously think they were being ironic?
It might have ended up that way but in the beginning people who I suspect do not main this board were seriously hyping that shit.
>People like you are so fun to laugh at.
You seem so euphoric, are you enlightened by your own intelligence perhaps?
>Do you honestly think it's normal to want females to have dicks?
I don't give a shit what some /pol/ baby considers "normal". I also don't give a shit what is considered "degenerate" but if you use the word you're a /pol/tard, plain and simple.
>b-b-but it's a spot on description
That's what every /pol/tard says, why do you think this is a decent defense?
The autistic need to yell his opinions like some edgy keyboard warrior who seeks to influence the world by typing with his fat fingers is also classic /pol/ shit.
Nobody gives a shit about your worthless opinions so stop shitting up the thread with it.
>Do you seriously think they were being ironic?
I sure as hell hope se.
>Considers everything opinions.
Ah, it's so nice of you just keep proving you are nothing but generic internet trash. Misusing words, making baseless claims, thinking they're shit taste acceptable, ect ect.
Do you understand the word normal is based on a mathematical average? This is rhetorical, because I know you don't. And you are a degenerate because you want something that is solely for sexual provocation. The futa concept can only be used in a sexual way, and degenerates are of people with low moral value. Liking something unnatural and solely for sexual purposes means have low morals. Futa differs itself from other fetishes because of the fact it involves breaking natural order to appeal to sexual urges that are not normal.
The whole while I was typing that I was giggles at how generic you are because you started spewing shit about opinions, and where wrong about it.
Don't be such a whiny degenerate lesbian, anon. Maybe think of it as another fetish, a tool, or something.
As long as the characters/pairing I like are fucking the shit out of each other, I don't care what fetish they engage in while doing it.
Hetshit is absolutely degenerate though.
All points about mathematical normality, and sex.
Cool opinions, keyboard warrior ;^)
It's so much fun watching people try to dismiss everything as opinions. Barely anyone on the internet knows what it actually means anymore.
We can't all be enlightened by our own intelligence
>Futa differs itself from other fetishes because of the fact it involves breaking natural order to appeal to sexual urges that are not normal.
Are you saying hermaphrodites don't exist?
That's bullying, anon.
>I'm losing the argument, so I'll spout /v/ memes
There's no argument, just a fedora christian conservative /pol/ reject yelling "I don't like thing" over and over again.
Yeah, you're done, brah.
You know. That is what we like to call a faulty syllogism. Just because you say something does not mean it's true.
>worships "natural order"
>likes the hyper idealized 2D world
I have no idea about mathematics = words, I am no match for your elaborate troll philosophies. I am but a slave to the futa cult and their sexual provocation rituals.
Het is still shit though.
Says Mr. "liking something unnatural means you have low morals" without giving any reasoning
>But, futa is for straight up degenerates. Do you honestly think it's normal to want females to have dicks?
Futa differs itself from other fetishes because of the fact it involves breaking natural order to appeal to sexual urges that are not normal.
futa, magic, yuri... your opinions... pushing said retarded opinions as facts...
You r worse than the occasional ferret fag we get here.
Worshipping natural order is classic for /pol/tards
Watch also how he tries to appear rational and logical in order to push his laughable extremism shit into being acceptable. Also classic /pol/ shit.
Next he'll pull up studies and infographs about how homosexuals are more likely to contract AIDS and cheat.
More "I'll dismiss everything I don't personally like as trolling"
Do you understand what the word normal means. You clearly don't. Because it means average, average is the mean of a sum of numbers.
What do you think the whole second half of this post is? >>100111229
It's so funny. You have such selective reading because you don't want to admit you have a disgusting fetish.
>Not understanding the word opinion.
>Missing the whole point about sexual appeal.
>Ignoring posts that already disprove your points
Now, it's not so much laughable funny, it's pathetic funny.
Literally all you are doing is making baseless claims.
>normal means average in mathematics
>Literally all you are doing is making baseless claims.
And yet we both know they're completely true.
If it looks, walks and talks like a /pol/ brat, it's probably a /pol/ brat.
>More of the same.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.
>one dude doesn't like futa
>not just saying "that's nice" and posting more pics of NanoFate having hardons
I mean why not
>What do you think the whole second half of this post is?
Your "second half" adds absolutely nothing to the post, except push more subjective shit about MUH NATURAL ORDER.
Why is it degenerate because you want something that is solely for sexual provocation?
Why does liking something unnatural and solely for sexual purposes means I have "low morals"?
Why is "breaking natural order" significant?
Why are things that aren't normal somehow negative?
Literally all subjective shit that you try to sell as being objective facts even though you can't even begin to explain any of these jumps of conclusions. Which is something that /pol/tards love to do.
Disgusting fetish? "Disgusting" is inherently subjective. That fact that you try so hard to make your opinion look like a logical fact isn't impressive in the least because it's what all deranged extremists do.
Conservatives, national socialists, flat-earth believers, they're all the same. Always trying to make themselves appear rational while using a billion logical fallacies in a desperate attempt to sell their ridiculous worldview to other people.
And no, "normal" doesn't mean "average" in mathematics, maybe you should educate yourself before spewing bullshit in order to impress people.
I prefer dog days
I love when they ask "Why did such a thing grow there?"
>already failing all arguments
Well that was easy
He didn't say normal means mathematical average you dumb fuck.
>the usual, AVERAGE, or typical state or condition.
Got to love it when people purposely ruin threads.
>Do you understand what the word normal means. You clearly don't. Because it means average, average is the mean of a sum of numbers.
Got anything else, backpedaling kid?
I know right. Sorry for interrupting your not even /a/ related discussion. I sure hope I don't get banned for posting Nanoha images in a Nanoha thread.
Hahaha. Well, for one I'm not backpedaling, because I'm not him. I guess that's just another word you don't understand.
He did not say normal was a mathematical average; He said that normal is what's average.
That means two entirely fucking different things.
I sure hope you get banned for posting NSFW ones, though.
I don't see any NSFW images in this thread. Just an off-topic discussion.
See mods operate like this:
3 pixels of something that could theoretically be NSFW content: 5 month ban
Hour long off-topic /pol/ shit: a-okay
I see convenient censoring and cropping, not NSFW.
Mods are gods
If you're going to be a tool the least you could do is reply to yourself so people can hide it with recursive filtering.
Are you going to post Nanoha related things or should I just keep going?
That was my first post in this thread today.
But I take it that's a no, and you will continue to be a faggot.
If you have nothing Nanoha related to contribute, you can always leave.
People like you are such scum bags.
I like these NanoFate crops. And futa is better than having your lesbians paired with faceless guys, so I can't really hate it, I'd say it's the best thing after yuri.
All I asked was he reply to himself so it could be hidden with a single click.
But he's tool much of a tool to do it.
But futa still taints the purity with dicks.
Dicks are purer than ugly vaginas
Dicks are gross.
If you're going to post faces from bad doujins, you might as well make it the funny faces.
>And futa is better than having your lesbians paired with faceless guys, so I can't really hate it, I'd say it's the best thing after yuri.
I like you and your tastes.
You're so picky, Anon.
Hahaha fuck that show, seriously.
Doggystyle is the single best thing about futa. You just can't enjoy it with yuri.
Nanoha is going to be so lucky after the timeskip.
>100 posts talking about futa
Is this really better than talking about Force?
Yes but don't let me stop you
Sauce on this?
>You will never be Vivio's little sister
>Is this really better than talking about Force?
I would gladly talk about Curren x Hayate or Signum x Cypha futa works but there aren't any scanned to do so.
>and futa is infinitely better than having any lesbians paired with faceless guys
And THIS so much.
>TL Note: keikaku means plan
>captcha: iewlyza for
Does Iewlyza sound like a good name for a villain?
>Cylcone released a Signum Doujin recently
>Signum looks more badass in it than in FORCE
Even a h-doujin artist is a better writer than Tsuzuki.
Signum is so badass she manages to get a good end in a fucking Cyclone doujin
>worshipping natural order
That being said shipping ANY characters that wield fire and water is forbidden.
And yes EVEN girls.
Fully expecting to be get a "bad end" version of it but it doesn't change the badassitude of this moment at all.
>that feel when Nanoha/Fate x Vivio doujinshi are nonexistent.
>Florian sisters animated never
The project name was FATE pls stop trying to push this.
One crazy mage's failed experiment is another crazy mage's waifu.
B-but that's their daughter!
Yes, and? Nanoha has canonically given her the B already. It pretty much means she's fair game.
You fucking stole my acronym. I was the one who came up with that.
It was actually me.
More like I posted that on /u/ a year ago.
Is this a Kenichi thread now?
Just finished the first season last night. I think this is the beginning of a new favorite series for me- I hope A's is as strong or stronger than the first season, I'll probably start it tonight.
From what I understand, the first and second movies are retellings of the first and second seasons, correct? With the third, upcoming movie being a change? It reminds me a bit of the Rebuild of Eva movies, which were.. Good, but didn't compare to NGE + EoE. Would anyone care to comment on the movies that have been released so far compared to the seasons they represent?
A's is the best the franchise has to offer.
>From what I understand, the first and second movies are retellings of the first and second seasons, correct?
>Would anyone care to comment on the movies that have been released so far compared to the seasons they represent?
Yes, they are mostly eye-candy.
>With the third, upcoming movie being a change?
>I hope A's is as strong or stronger than the first season
A's is by far the best
A's is the best season.
The movies are sort of like Rebuild I guess. They cut out some stuff but also add content.
Movie 1st is pretty much agreed on being better than the original season 1.
Movie 2nd / A's is sort of hit-and-miss, it's better in some ways and worse in others
What is that from? Google RIS is not turning anything up.
a la carte
The chapter it's from must not be fully translated.
It's interesting how easy it is to forget the Linith didn't show up in the original TV series (she was only introduced in a Sound Stage) but shows up in A's without any explanation, it's nice that the 1st Movies fixes that and shows more of Fate background.
Why can't I find it then?
Because you're refusing just to check the big Nanoha scanlation sites.
Never mind, I found. it.
This is all well and good but do you think we could get some lewd in here?
How lewd are we talking?
Holding hands under the covers with interlocked fingers
How about implicit sex lewd?
Close as I got.
Maybe Japan will get on it one day hopefully not too long from now.
Can no yuri discussion happen anymore without bringing up Sakura Trick?
It's babbys first yuri anime, so it's not surprising.
Not for another 3 months at the very least.
It's this season's yuri vanguard. It can't be helped.
It's rather annoying.
Both movies sucked, the only thing better in the 2nd movie was the final boss fight. 1st movie was just crap through and through.
It's an important time for yuri. Imagine if 7arcs sees this and gives us A's-Strikers where Nanoha and Fate kis a lot and talk about how much they love each other? 12 whole episodes of it.
won't happen, there's more money to be made by teasing. Besides, Japanese fans want their "waifus" to be pure, so no kissy kissy. Sorry everyone.
I'd rather they not model them selves after shit like Sakura Trick, though.
Cheap comedy, pandering, and multiple forced love triangles in order to MAKE the main characters relationship develop.
Honestly, I'd take no yuri over Sakura Trick. I don't want it to set the standard for yuri anime.
I think both movies did a good job recapturing the best scenes in the series, that being Fate and Nanoha's farewell in the end of S1 and Fate's dream in S2, so they're alright in my book, also the fight scenes were cool.
I actually think StrikerS would do very well in movie format. They would be able to cut out the vast majority of the training arc bullshit, and it had some really good fights, like Subaru vs Gin. It's still a lot to put in one movie though, so they might be better off splitting it into two.
It's like you really believe there's hetero Nanoha fans in Japan. Hilarious.
Nanya please go
Nanoha would do things Nanoha style since that's how Nanoha works. Nanoha doesn't have to copy ST, but ST doing well could be good things for us.
What's that gif from originally again? KMB?
We can only hope they would. I'd like to think they wouldn't cave to fan pressure. But you never know.
>I'd like to think they wouldn't cave to fan pressure
NanoFate is only a thing because they caved to fan pressure. They wanted to pair Nanoha with Yuuno. They tried to push this in the sound stages when they realized people were seeing StrikerS as Nanoha and Fate adopting Vivio together, but fans wouldn't have it.
>NanoFate is only a thing because they caved to fan pressure
I very much doubt that. They where shipping Nanoha with Fate before they had a chance to be pressured.
D'awwww Fate-chan, please never change.
If Japan could ship Vivio and Hayate there is no reason why Vivio couldn't do the dirty with Nanoha and Fate.
They only did that because there was literally no other option. A "pair the spares" situation if you will.
Japan has loved their lesbian waifus since 2005, that was one important reason of why we got our sweet and moderate dosage of NanoFate in canon.
yes, please kill yourself if you dislike opinions that don't match up to yours.
Probably not, but you see how those fans react the instant that there's even a HINT that their "waifus" aren't pure. Hell, there was that one guy who married that Fate body pillow for crying out loud.
He was a dirty Korean.
He called the movies bad, which they are not. If he said he did not like the movies as much that'd be an opinion.
Yes, those are two different things. And, Yes; you should kill yourself for not knowing they.
He called the movies bad, which they are not. If he said he did not like the movies as much that'd be an opinion.
Yes, those are two different things. And, Yes; you should kill yourself for not knowing that>
I don't know, judging from how many older fate x lolinoha and vice versa doujinshi there are, it seems like japan likes that type of pairing.
And besides, Hayate has an entire harem.
Of course there's going to be outliers, but the whole point of yuri is that it's "pure". Nobody is going to get butthurt about 20 year old lesbians kissing when it's what they all pretend is going on anyway.
>They wanted to pair Nanoha with Yuuno. They tried to push this in the sound stages
This is hilarious, each minor mention of Yuuno in the Sound Stages after A's was to ship NanoFate. I remember lurking AS when the StrikerS Sound Stage 2 or 3 was announced, and they were all celebrating because there was one track that had Yuuno on it, but not only him but Nanoha as well. It was so good when the CD finally came out and it was about Nanoha and Yuuno getting on a call by chance, and him noticing that Nanoha was sad (after Vivio got kidnapped) and consoled her by telling Nanoha that she had Fate by her side.
That does have a basis in canon after all.
People honestly think this.
>and consoled her by telling Nanoha that she had Fate by her side.
How beta can a guy be?
Nevermind, he's probably only into lolis, or maybe he was a yurishipper all along.
The only thing I think of magical girl series is that no dick = no deal.
Are you gay, son?
My macho heritage prevents me from enjoying full female casts.
Who the hell watches a magical girl series for dudes?
You poor conditioned soul.
Technically all the seasons have male side characters.
>it was about Nanoha and Yuuno getting on a call by chance, and him noticing that Nanoha was sad (after Vivio got kidnapped) and consoled her by telling Nanoha that she had Fate by her side.
Even Yuuno is a NanoFate shipper. I bet AS was so mad.
I finished StrikerS recently. A's would be a tough act to follow and while Strikers wasn't as strong, I still enjoyed it.
That said, I marathoned this bitch in a matter of days, if I was going at it week-by-week like I was watching it as it was broadcasted, I think I'd have a less favorable opinion of it.
I liked that they weren't keeping them in little girl limbo and skipped right to "adulthood." And I loved all the attention to military affairs behind the magical girl blasting.
I appreciated what they tried to do with Fate, Erio and Caro but I feel like it never really went anywhere interesting and was just some token internal conflict brought up when Fate confronted Scaglietti to keep Fate relevant to the drama when for once Nanoha is taking center stage to rescue Vivio.
I feel like Vivio should've been introduced earlier and they should've made first contact with the villain team much earlier. Also maybe scale down the training which basically lasts half the season.
The villain team were disappointingly underdeveloped, besides the more prominent ones like Uno and Quattro I'm still not sure which of the numbered androids was which. Spaghetti was genuinely unsettling though.
I guess I should start on Innocent or Vivid now since Force is apparently terrible and on hiatus? Or indulge myself in the copious amounts of wholesome doujins.
Allso Vice Granscenic is best girl.
Before you start Innocent you should play Nanoha Gears of Destiny or at least read the summaries of the PSP games plots else you will be confused as fuck with the new characters
Did you watch the movies
Go with Vivid.
Honestly, now that you've finished StrikerS you can consider the golden age of the series over. Go ahead and watch the first two movies if you haven't already, or maybe wait until S1 and 2 are less fresh in your mind before doing so. Either one is fine.
ViviD and Innocent are basically Nanoha with none of the drama. It's just little girls fighting for fun and yuri shipping turned into overdrive. Also the mecha aspects are toned down dramatically, making it more of a traditional magical girl theme. I think they're okay for what they are but nowhere near as gripping as S1, A's, and StrikerS were.
Force goes in the complete opposite direction. Almost all focus goes to the older cast doing military stuff. Less mahou more mecha, more grimdarkery including blood and such. It's basically like they split the series into halves with ViviD doing the cute loliservice mahou shoujo aspects and Force doing the military, mecha, drama, and older cast members.
I don't like either one, but if Force wasn't so badly done I think it would have been better. Some of the new designs are actually pretty cool and for me Nanoha just isn't Nanoha without a major central conflict.
I watched the first one. I'm taking a break so I don't get burned out before the 2nd one.
Now read all the supplementary material for each season.
There's nothing to confused by is there? It's just Dark Nanoha, Dark Fate, and Dark Hayate.
Innocent is nothing like the rest of the franchice, and it mostly just goofy fun/goggle shipping wars. Vivid is very light on the Yuri, and has tons of training arc.
I recomend you drowned yourself in the big name doujins first.
Start with Tokoharu then do Meki Meki
>You better do as I say and read what I like!
>It's just Dark Nanoha, Dark Fate, and Dark Hayate.
Nope, it's not.
Also you're forgetting the other two
Just watch the movies and call it quits.
>Bizarro-Arisa and Suzuka
Ummm... Not a single thing I said was untrue. I offered very basic information about the two titles he mentioned.
I also did not imply he should do as I say. I just said what I recommend.
Maybe you should stop making faulty assumptions, and projecting. Because you're the one here who looks pretty retarded.
It's both funny and sad to see how stupid some people are.
Yeah, not really.
Th-thanks for the suggestions.
Movie 1st and 2nd should be placed after StrikerS in chronology, considering they're supposed to be actual in-universe movies.
How about fucking no
That's a lot to go through just to show her pretty bra. Now she's going to have to undo everything to get her uniform back in order. I wish my brain would stop interrupting my boner.
Also, I love this guy's work.
It's a chronology of the events they depict, not a chronology of their release order.
Regardless of what in-universe excuse they decided to give for the movies (Why they needed to do that, I don't even know), the events of the movies are still chronologically the beginning.
The event they depict is a movie that was canonically made within the Nanoha universe, about the events depicted in Season 1 and A's.
>Innocent is nothing like the rest of the franchice, and it mostly just goofy fun/goggle shipping wars. Vivid is very light on the Yuri, and has tons of training arc.
I can fully agree with this.
>I recomend you drowned yourself in the big name doujins first.
>Start with Tokoharu then do Meki Meki
This is just forcing down your own taste down his throat.
Maybe it didn't occur to you that not every person watching Nanoha is a hardcore NanoFate fanboy or yurifag in general. So why would you recommend someone new to the franchise doujins with the focus on NanoFate's private life?
Why not first the manga listed here >>100142483?
Movie 1st THE COMICS is fucking great.
Except when you have cases like 2nd (and inevitably the StrikerS movie) where the plot is dramatically changed in order to show the TSAB in a positive light and hide Nanoha's PTSD.
Did it occur to you I used the word recommend?
Even in 1st, which made Precia considerably more sympathetic. It's a tossup whether that is actual development of the character or them trying to respect Fate's wishes.
They're just using the tactic where they accuse someone of doing something wrong, then proceed to do the exact same thing to make it less obvious what they're doing.
That Fate stuff in Movie 1st is actually just a direct adaptation of the soundstages, except her line as she falls into the abyss.
Is Exiled Destiny the best group for the first season?
DamagedGoodz is better
Yes, just remember to tap "S" and "A" at the beginning of each episode if you're using MPC-HC.
Ugh, this reminds me, I am still on 5/13 of the first season. I will finish it one day, for the promise of robot girls down the line... sigh, I should have just watched the film.
Fate, please. It's far too late to start Stupid Sexy Nanoha Time. You'll cut into your precious Love-Love Nanoha Relaxation Time, all 4 hours of it.
What is /a/'s opinion on the sexuality of children raised by gay couples?
Irrelevant if they have a star-crossed loved from a time long past.
>getting handwashed by two hot MILFs
Must be nice... ;_;
They aren't real moms though.
Only seen A's. I have StrikerS ready to go, and i've heard Force is garbage and that I shouldn't deal with it
Force is for super hardcore fans only. It's so bad it got indefinitely hiatused and the author got put on something safe, a totally unnecessary manga adaptation of S1.
I feel sorry for her, ruled by her past lives. It doesn't matter of she's gay or straight, because she used to be a beta faggot in a past life, she's stuck with Vivio no matter what.
NTRing Fate with your player 2 version.
It's not like Fate did it first.
GoD OVA fucking when.
Greatest magical girl series out there.
Nanoha > Sakura > * > Madoka
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge, son.
For those of you whining about futa, it's canon.
>with the baby inside me
Creepy ass bitch, everytime.
Fate should leave some Nanoha for everyone else.
>implying you wouldn't bear Fate's handsome child
oh shut the fuck up god damn /a/ is too damn slow
how is this thread still up?
By the power of dick.
>technologically and magically advanced society
>Nanoha will retire and become a housewife
How do you voice a character for so long and not have a good grasp of her personality? Nanoha won't retire because she still has too many heads to cool.
But she did semi-retire, to raise Vivio.
That's not retirement though. That's cutting hours to make sure her daughter is cared for.
StrikerS was an abomination.
Should have just focused on:
- & Fate
Fuck Rocket Lance & Jinglepuff the poorly animated dragon. It sucks even more because A's was really good.
StrikerS can suck a dick.
Its more of her taking a break from magic intensive work after that fight with Vivio.
>Magic capacity dropped by 8%
Nanoha will retire first regardless. Whether by her will or Fate's.
>Not hard at work every day before dawn like she has been since she was 9
>Not working until night, after everyone else has left
>Now takes relaxing scented baths at mid-afternoon, while waiting for her daughter to come home.
For someone that used to be an extreme workaholic, it pretty close to retirement.
It's been 4 years.
She now has people she can trust to take care of the paperwork. All she has to do is bust some recruit heads.
I want a story where the child-exploiting, tech-scavenging smug magicians are pitted against a full-tech, Earth society
The only one that exists have another 'alternate Earth' with North Korea style governance and 1990s tech + magic
Why not mana eating nanomachines and tactical drones?
>Wearing that out in public
Is Nanoha a slut?
I kind of want to see a situation where TSAB somehow goes down due to civil wars and shit, and Hayate and co brings as much innocent people as possible to safe planets while fighting off the enemy.
And then she later recruits the help of Earth's militaries to help fight off the warmongers.
What if the TSAB is invaded by some spacefaring non magic pure technology civilization that is in search of a new homeplanet and use mannable and unmannable mechas for warfare?
And the mechas are called Gears and it's actually the civilization that escaped from Eltria and are now living in space on Macross-esque ships
They bring in the banned stuff, of course.
>candles and roses
Nanoha's bathroom must be heaven.
Refuse to just let this thread die, huh?
How many bitches are gonna get rekt by Miura before she gets bored and goes home to get rekt by Hayate?
She could have "befriended" Vivio and dommed her, but she was too beta to do it.
I'll never get why people try to ship Hayate with everyone and anyone.
Then again. I never got shipping in the first place.
Because she gropes people as a hobby. She likes titties.
When does that actually happen?
Not really like that is enough to consider it a 'canon' ship/pairing, but still.
Every time she gets in the bath with someone else during the soundstages, I think it appears in one on the companion manga as well.
Yagami-ke is best -ke.
So it really is nothing more than goggle shipping.
Doesn't really seem anything like Nanoha and Fate 'shipping' where they stare longing into each other's eyes for an extended period of time.
Everyone know HayaRein is the OTP of the franchise. But Reinforce is dead, so...
It's not shipping at all. She likes boobs.
So... they just juggle her around with everyone.
Oh, I do ship Miura with Hayate, though. The series itself doesn't really do that.
Love at first sight, and Nanoha loves Fate's eyass
Which was kind of my point in >>100169680. There's no real rhyme or reason to it, so why do people do it.
Because it arouses me.
She'll gladly assist with NTR, though, the little minx.
It's like the sole goal they have in Vivid is to create shipping wars.
I think they're trying to distract us from NanoFate.
You can suck my dick, Lightning>Stars. 8 hours later is not enough to stop my autism.
Dumb idea, Nanofate is the greatest thing about their franchise.
To bad we'll never see loli-NanoFate romance.
>Implying we'll see grown up NanoFate romance.
Not that Anon but I love the shit out of Fate and even I think her new "family" is irrelevant as fuck. They are so irrelevant they went off to live on their own on a planet far away from Fate while Fate spends her vacations with Nanoha and Vivio.
On the other hand, I can't stand Teana and Subaru is alright but they were at least relevant to the plot concerning Nanoha PTSD and combat cyborgs.
Even as fighters Erio and Caro are shit tier as illustrated in Vivid. Caro is a boring stock mage tier rear support and Erio has as many moves as a magikarp. The little shit couldn't even beat Fate without using a surprise attack.
I hate to say this but Lightning a shit. They should have given Fate better kids.
>Even as fighters Erio and Caro are shit tier as illustrated in Vivid.
Erio beat Fate in Vivid...
Reflections pls Tsuzuki
Nanoha and Fate burned out their last drop of love after 15 or so years together, no chance of romance now, they're only living together for the sake of their daughter.
Under her limiter, and after getting blasted by a Starlight Breaker.
>I can't stand Teana
You shut your fucking whore mouth.
They had all kinds of limits and restrictions in place.
It does matter that she was getting ganged up on by Nanoha and Erio.
If Fate was fighting a single one on one fight against Erio, she could have just spammed ranged attack from the air, since the little shit can't even fly and is useless at ranged combat. But it was a team fight, also limiters.
>Nanoha and Fate don't love each other.
You should be mutilated and killed in the most inhumane way possible.
>The little shit couldn't even beat Fate without using a surprise attack.
Plus Fate was distracted and emotionally compromised with her "glass cannon" Nanoha chasing after her.
>Under her limiter
Subaru and Teana could go toe-to-toe with Nanoha if they really wanted to. Not for long but they certainly could do it.
Vivio doesn't even see Fate as a mom. She just calls her mama out of habit.
>You shut your fucking whore mouth.
Annoying tsunshit. Only there to show how gay Subaru is. And she's ugly without her pigtails.
How does it not matter?
>inb4 shitty "they are all on equal footing" argument.
Nanoha and Fate still act like newlyweds in the latest installments of the franchise, maybe Nanoha inherited that from Mmoko. I'm sure their love will last forever.
>Vivio doesn't even see Fate as a mom.
Don't mind me, just proving you wrong with the first damn chapter in Vivid.
>there to show how gay Subaru is.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>Implying she didn't 3v1 a group a cyborgs.
>Vivio doesn't even see Fate as a mom. She just calls her mama out of habit.
Yeah, that's why Fate became Vivio's guardian and Vivio calls her mother and and literally says that she loves Fate and Nanoha the same. Stop baiting.
Fate doesn't even put her heart into friendly battles anymore. That's why Signum ended up broing it up with Nanoha.
Kid Fate would have went scythe form, wrecked Erio's shit and then go directly for Nanoha.
Why do they look so fat?
After Nanoha got hurt Fate mellowed out a ton and turned into a worrywart.
>Vivio doesn't even see Fate as a mom. She just calls her mama out of habit.
She lives with her two mothers as the Takamachi family, there are lot of bonding moments between Vivio and Nanoha and Vivio and Fate after StrikerS, bot sure how you could have missed all this.
>It seems around then I had grown to view Fate-mama as my Mama too
She's basically saying that Fate is her mother because she's been calling her mom and can't even remember why. It's basically out of obligation because if she suddenly stopped calling Fate mama, she knows Fate would hang herself.
She clearly favors Nanoha
If you think a difference of opinion is trolling, maybe you ought to stop posting around here.
>She clearly favors Nanoha
Except she stated at least a couple of times that she loves both the same. What you claim is like saying I love my mother more than my father because I see her more time.
I swear to god no one on the internet knows what that word means anymore. It has been distorted past the point of recognition.
Why did you start calling your parents Dad and Dad? You probably can't remember either.
That's your opinion.
I want to make Einhart smile.
Both Nanoha and Fate are Vivio's guardian and her family according to all canon material, not sure why you're so against it or how you could have missed such a big part of the characters.
MekiMeki isn't that canon
While Vivio can tell you exactly why she loves her Nanoha-mama, Fate-mama is that person who is just there with Nanoha so she loves her too. Give it another few years, Vivio will be talking about how Fate is like an aunt to her.
Where? Don't post MekiMeki or the a la cartes because they're fanservice and don't count.
Okay, I laughed.
She started calling both Nanoha and Fate mother in StrikerS, in case that you don't remember it, you seems to be lost bro.
Because they're actually related to me.
I never said that I was against their family. Where did you get that from? I'm just saying that Vivio loves Fate less than she loves Nanoha. To me, it doesn't seem she really views her as a mom but more like her mother's girlfriend who is really kind to her.
A la Carte is canon and was made to give the characters SoL time.
But at least you're learning. You went through the archive and saved a bunch of pictures to post so you can look a bit more genuine.
That's A la Carte.
>Fate-mama is that person who is just there with Nanoha so she loves her too
Nope, Fate is Vivio's mother, the same as Nanoha, as stated in canon. Even if your opinion is different and makes more sense for you, you are not an a higher level that Tsuzuki.
>I'm just saying that Vivio loves Fate less than she loves Nanoha
That's delusional. Please refer to
Because Fate told her to.
I don't archive dive, buddy but I'm glad you can tell I'm a real fan.
Why are you not reading my posts? I never said that Fate was not her mother. Vivio just doesn't consider her as mama as Nanoha. My god what is wrong with you.
>Vivio just doesn't consider her as mama as Nanoha.
Except she does, and has been stated multiple times in the canon installments of the franchise, and for that matter in this thread.
>Because Fate told her to.
So your parents are less parents to you because they taught you how you should address them? That's retarded.
>Vivio just doesn't consider her as mama as Nanoha
That's an opinion, and you shouldn't state it a fact, specially because it contradicts canon.
>Fate mama is my mama because she's Nanoha mama's close friend and been my mama for as long as I remember
>I'm not sure why I call her mama but she's been mama so oh well!
Fate's barely a stepmother in Vivio's eyes but she's too young to understand it. I'm calling it now, Vivio's going to start calling Fate "oba-san" when she reaches her teens. When she does, I'm going to flood the thread with I TOLD YOU NIGGAS SO. Just watch.
She's her guardian and mother, and Vivio is mature enough to have her own girlfriend now, at her age Nanoha and Fate were fucking like bunnies already. Also stop the trolling please, you do this every thread, get tired already.
She may as well start calling Nanoha oba-san if she does that with Fate, since they both are the same for Vivio, or in canon at least.
They can't do that, imagine the backslash if they removed either Nanoha or Fate from the Takamachi family.
Also we'll not get more sequels to Vivid after the disaster that was Force.
That card looks lewd
My parents are my parents because they're related to me. Fate's fucking up with all those business trips. Her daughter won't know her anymore.
>Vivio is mature enough to have her own girlfriend now
>at her age Nanoha and Fate were fucking like bunnies
Oh? And I'm the delusional one?
What trolling in every thread? Questioning the sanctity of the holy NanoFate? Oh how horrible of me.
I'm getting tired of you yurifags intolerant bullshit. Threads get stale because of you guys crying troll when something different is posted. If you don't want to see NanoFate questioned, go back to /u/.
But Nanoha-mama does things like this. Fate-mama is always on business trips so she keeps missing out on her daughter's flags.
Vivio has two Mommies
Tsuzuki is an asshole who hates the ship that made Nanoha successful. I guarantee he will try it.
>Also we'll not get more sequels to Vivid after the disaster that was Force.
If Higa fucks up the new manga, Force might get retconned out of the Nanohaverse I hope.
>I'm getting tired of you yurifags intolerant bullshit
>go back to /u/
Figured it was you. Haven't you been banned enough yet?
That's how stereotypical Japanese families are bro. Father works away, the mother is raises the children.
Also you're not even questioning NanoFate, you're imposing your very specific and divergent opinion on Vivio's family situation.
Fate is such an obedient dog to Nanoha.
If you don't like Nanoha threads, just hide them instead of flamings the regular posters.
>go back to /u/.
More like get the fuck out of my Nanoha thread.
Yuri is popular with over 50% of /a/nons, and Nanoha threads have been yuri related since Nanoha placed her eyes on Fate, so if you don't like it just fuck out.
Who am I, exactly?
I love NanoFate but you hardcore yurifags just ruin everything. The instant somebody wants to talk about Nanoha being with somebody else, you guys throw a tantrum. Now that I'm bringing up the possibility that the Takamachi family is not all sunshine and rainbows and you guys start shitting yourselves.
I don't even know why you guys leave /u/ if you can't take things like this. It's not fair to everyone else when guys strongarm your ships around here. It makes you guys just as bad as ASfags when they deny anything NanoFate and hope Fate dies in a fire.
Again, I have no problem with NanoFate. I have problems with people like you ruining Nanoha threads by acting like /u/'s version of AS.
People are touchy after years of trolling. Also you are attacking the idea that Fate is viewed as a mother by Vivio, which is beloved in the fandom (and also strongly supported by ViVid).
And that's why you have to come to these very specific threads to shit on everyone and ruin the thread? Don't go acting innocent now because you always do the same shit. If you don't like the thread just fuck out.
No need to reason with him. He's just the shitposter who's been going around shitting on anything yuri related.
I bet he's the ferretfaglord too.
well if you look back at this incredibly autistic argument, his first comment that Vivio didn't see Fate as a mother anymore was in reply to a ridiculous assertion that NanoFate were only staying together for Vivio and the love had gone out of their relationship. so it was sort of in defense of NanoFate.
basically the whole thing is stupid.
I'm glad they improved the official artstyle with smaller and less pointy eyes, some older artworks, especially StrikerS stuff, look pretty bad with the uguu faces
1st movie is better than S1
S2 is better than the 2nd movie
no and yes
Oh I've been through the trolling. But some people around here need to stop seeing things in black and white and actually read posts instead of going on full attack as soon as they see one thing they don't like.
I never even denied NanoFate or the Takamachi family while these fags >>100176795 >>100176863 are acting as if I'm saying Fate is basically a stranger to them.
You're right, the whole thing is stupid. You guys should have attacked the guy who said Nanoha nad Fate don't love each other anymore.
The 1st movie fixed a lot of things wrong with the first season, they cut out a lot of the boring stuff, gave more screentime to Fate's background and developed some characters a lot more like Fate's mother and Alicia.
The 2nd movie fails because unlike the first season A's had no boring stuff to cut out. This led them to ruin the pacing of the series and even outright remove some of the most memorable scenes and moments from the original. Yes the design and animations are superior in the movie, but the TV series is much more engaging in general.
This is the first time I've found feet erotic.
She's just cooling off after an intense battle. Nothing erotic here.
But part of the "boring stuff" they cut out was Nanoha's entire character arc, and Precia didn't really needed or deserved the screentime, at least no more than Nanoha
I agree with the second part of your post, but movie 1st was just eyecandy
I'd say it's a fair compromise because Nanoha's arc was always weak. She's has her moments, especially with Fate and those when she shows her weaknesses, but she is a simple character really.
>Precia didn't really needed or deserved the screentime
Tell Fate that.
I understand why my friend likes it.
Her childhood and relationship with her family are the things that give meaning to her interest in Fate and are a trigger for their relationship
To cut that out was a mistake
So, let me get this straight.
Nanoha covers her chest while she has a bra on, but moves her hands when it disappears.
Isn't it more embarrassing when you can see your nipples through the clothes than when you're shirtless?
Winter Jacket edidtion.
>Tsuzuki is an asshole who hates the ship that made Nanoha successful. I guarantee he will try it.
I actually too belive this.
It's japanese fans who forced him to go with NanoFate where that became insanely popular with Nanoha otaku after first season and no one gave shit about Yuuno or Chrono with Nanoha or Fate.
I don't think he ever wanted to make Nanoha and Fate OTP of the franchise, but if something sells it would be stupid to throw money away.
He locked himself here, he can't make NanoFate yuri canon due to possibly negative feedback for making main characters officialy gay but he also can't pair them up with guys even in subtext cause otaku in both cases will get mad.
So we instead got Subaru molesting Teana, Erio molesting Caro, Vivio x Einhart and all that Vivid yuri baiting and to counter that we got Force with male MC and 2 girls who are interested in him in romantic way...
Tsuzuki only choice are either AU with NanoFate and other girls yuri subtext like Innocent or retellings of the same material.
DogDays shows us that if Tsuzuki wants he can create something new which isn't set in Nanohaverse and sell.
Dog Days is just Tsuzuki exercising his nekomini fetish and letting us watch.
If thats true, why does Nanoha spend half a chapter thinking in Fate's eyes after they meet?
It seems obvious that she was a bit more than a rival character from the beginning
If anything it seems that he ditched the idea of a romantic triangle and went straight for the yuri
That sort of subtext is common in magical girl stories. I think all of the NanoFate stuff in the first season was never intended to actually be romantic, even the bridge scene, but it wound up being so popular that they just went with it and dumped Yuuno and Chrono.
>I don't think he ever wanted to make Nanoha and Fate OTP of the franchise
Oh right surely that's why Fate got Chrono's role from TH.
Since the first season it was obvious that Nanoha and Fate were the pairing to go with, it was meant to be that way, I'm not sure how you got the wrong idea.
>he can't make NanoFate yuri canon
He did, like 6 years ago. You're late to the party.
>He did, like 6 years ago.
Not that guy, but what exactly are you considering 'canon'?
He was talking about Nanoha and Fate starting a romantic relationship, right? That had place in the time skip between A's and StrikerS.
Oh, okay. So, not really canon. Just shippers canon.
I thought I was missing something important.
In StrikerS they were a couple, they became essentially married the moment Vivio joined the series, but they didn't become officially married until the moment both adopted Vivio as her legal guardians.
StrikerS, the Sound stages, A la Carte, and Vivid are all canon, not "shippers canon", whatever that means.
>I thought I was missing something important.
Apparently you missed everything after A's.
Check this >>100142483 if you're interested in keeping up to date.
Don't forget the mangas
How can you say it's not something, if you don't even know what it is.
But, it's pretty pointless to try and convince Nanoha fans that heavily implied != canon.
So I won't pursue this further.
>A la Carte
I like to think that the "T" in Fate's name stands for Takamachi
There isn't confirmation of the other characters that got married getting their names changed either. It's possible that Mid-Childa's law works like that.
I'm as much a NonaFate fan as the next guy, but I'm not retarded enough to think it's considered canon.
You have to a very special kind of brain dead to think it's more than subtext.
>inb4 All their romance happens off screen!!!!
Most of the romance happened off screen, actually, for NanoFate and for the other couples.
NanoFate has been canon for Japan and the western fans since before I started watching this series, not my fault you've been living under a rock.
I'm just going to refer to what this guy said >>100180340
>it's pretty pointless to try and convince Nanoha fans that heavily implied != canon.
Subaru points it out in one of the 4komas.
Chrono and Amy must not be canon since we never see it onscreen, right?
You know that's kind of counterintuitive to your point, right? They explicitly say Amy and Chrono are married, so if it was canon for Nanoha and Fate why wouldn't they do the same.
Nanoha A la Carte is an official publication of 7 Arcs, the main anthology follows the canon from the animated series and Vivid, but doesn't expand on it. It's mostly a SoL.
It isn't less canon for being draw by different artists.
They're probably not actually officially married, or at least they weren't in StrikerS.
This just isn't the same without the voice acting
So Japan and Tsuzuki are wrong? You should be the one making anime instead.
That's a big misnomer. What a lot of people don't understand is that officially published does not mean it's canon.
That'd be like saying Innocent is canon. I don't remember virtual reality in the first series. Do you?
TV show I: Good
TV show II: Awesome, Great, More adjective
Film I: OK
Film II: Better than OK, but not awesome
TV show III: Bad^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9
>Isis settling for Touma
Huh, what? How does that make any sense at all.
Do you understand what you read?
The consensus is that they got married between StrikerS and Vivid to help with legal things regarding Vivio and getting their house.
I've read this somewhere, but hopefully someday we'll get an special about this time period where we see them getting married, and their wedding getting interrupted by the bad guys, just for them to start flying in fighting on their wedding dresses.
Innocent is canon, but in a different continuity, just as the movies are in a different continuity.
Innocent is set in an alternate universe.
It is canon is that universe.
>That'd be like saying Innocent is canon. I don't remember virtual reality in the first series.
You really gonna do this?
That's not what canon means.
You are literally using at as "officially publish = canon" which is not.
Innocent is also officially published and canon, but is not the same continuity, it's an alternate story or Universe. The movies can be considered the same thing.
A la Carte is canon and part of the main continuity, is not an alternate Universe. The Movie A la Carte obviously takes place in the Movies continuity.
>You are literally using at as "officially publish = canon" which is not.
Yeah, it is. In the worst case an officially published installment of a franchise is part of a different continuity.
Oh my god, haha. The amount of down syndrome in this thread right now is ridiculous.
People really do love Innocent and will fight tooth and nail to make other people consider it canon. Even though it's not.
>non-porn mahou shoujo
/a/ really is the little girl
No, it's not. If you stretch the word canon to mean anything with "continuity" it could encompass everything.
>elitist Nanoha-fags bitching again
Innocent is part of its own canon, in case that you missed the last few posts.
The Movies form part of a different canon.
The original novel is part of its own canon.
The Sound Stages, animated series, drama cds, Vivid, A la Carte, Force, A's to StrikerS manga are part of the main canon.
Wat. There are 3 main continuities.
Main: S1>A's>Strikers>Vivid>Force, and all the little connecting releases like sound stages and manga. Movies form their only little sub line in here being in-universe productions.
PSP: Battle of Aces>Gears of Destiny which is an alternate outcome to the Book of Darkness incident.
Innocent: It's own thing.
Things can be canon to it's own continuity because they are all separate stories.
Canon means that is part of the official storyline, in some series we have many official storyline, or alternate realities, so we have multiple canons.
No it's not. And you people are morons.
Just because they share a name/theme does not mean they are canon.
God, what's the point of words having definitions if people don't use or know them. Next I bet you'll be telling it's my opinion they're not canon.
W-why do people keep replying to trolls?
Why are you so anal about this? You sound like
someone who reads comics
There's no "the" canon.
What you are considering canon is the main timeline. There are multiple timelines in Nanoha that have their own canon.
Canon is a stupid word anyway, it makes no difference to the actual story, it's just for people to play pretend.
Because he keeps making himself look dumber and dumber. I'm sure he'll go back to his secret club and talk about how amazing he trolled us while posting links to the archives.
Thanks for proving my point about people not knowing what words mean.
You say "anal", I say "laughing at you for being an idiot."
If you can using that way you could consider anything and everything canon. Is the random NanoFate doujin I just real canon? It was set in the same timeline as the series'.
It was Lorely
>God, what's the point of words having definitions if people don't use or know them
Canon literally means "part of the official storyline". you're the one that doesn't understand basic definitions.
So Innocent is part of the Innocent canon, and A la Carte is part of the main canon, that's it.
No, that doujin takes place in canon, but is not part of the canon of the series. Canon works are the ones published by 7 Arcs.
See first point in >>100182263
Don't stop reading after the first sentence
>Officially publish != canon
>Fan-fiction would be described as "non-canon," while an event from the official source material would be "canon."
You literally defeated yourself with your own link. Way2go
Wonder what they got Vivio for Christmas.
You shot yourself in the foot.
Hopefully a penis
>When there are multiple "official" works or original media, the question of what is and what is not canonical can be unclear. This is resolved either by explicitly excluding certain media from the status of canon (as in the case of Star Trek), by assigning different levels of canonicity to different media (as in the case of Star Wars), by considering different but licensed media treatments official within their own continuities but not across them (as with Battlestar Galactica), or not resolved at all. The use of canon is of particular importance with regard to reboots or re-imaginings of established franchises, such as the 2009 Star Trek film, because of the ways in which it influences the viewer experience.
When I said don't stop reading after the first sentence I meant read the whole thing. Not take things out of context, which you don't understand.
Though this might come down to you not understand what the word official means, as well.
>Though this might come down to you not understanding what the word official means, as well.
Since I'm such a dummy, explain it to me.
Post a link with the definition of "official" , maybe you have better luck this time
If there's one thing to take from this, it's that the most viable way to shitpost by pretending to be retarded is to not be extremely ignorant, but rather pretend you're making an argument and keep quoting back to your previous posts like there's something in there that refutes your targets' statements.
I can't be your personal google'er anymore. I have stuff to go do.
Just as the bump limit hits, how convenient.
Since you're leaving I guess we can have a normal thread again.
You are not better.
>the most viable way to shitpost by pretending to be retarded is to not be extremely ignorant
Why people still argue over this?
Nanoha loves Fate, Fate loves Nanoha, Vivio calls them both mama, Fate lives with Nanoha when she's not on the long missions, Nanoha is portrayed as the typical strict but caring japanese mother and Fate is 'father' who is doting her daughter but would be away most of the time.
NanoFate is canon, no guy or other girl will break that relationship, not Tsuzuki, and not any doujin or fanwork.
Is it really so important if they fuck or not in their private daily time with each other in canon material or if they are asexual couple of best friends who only need such thing in life?
Nanoha and Fate have shown sexual attraction to each other in canon, so they can't be asexual. Such scenario was very unlikely anyways.
Fate lets it slip sometimes.
>Fate lets it slip sometimes.
These Force 4-komas are the best thing to come out of the manga.
This artist is pretty great in general.
>you will never hear Fate call her Nanoha-chan
Fate isn't Japanese, and she's smart enough not to weeb it up like Lindy.