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Today /a/, I intend to watch me a Lucky Star & Yuyushiki marathon.

That being said, can anyone give me an estimate of how many brain cells I'm gonna lose today?
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>>100039939

None - SOL is something intellectual people watch after a hard days work.
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They aren't dumber than your average anime. If you enjoy this medium then Lucky Star or Yuyushiki shouldn't be a problem.

Get off your high horse.
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Can't lose what you don't have anon.
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SoL doesn't make you lose brain cells anon.
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Legend of Korra is more cerebral.
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>>100039939

None. You in for a good time. This was a decent SoL. Don't forget K-ON, Yuru Yuri, Marimite and Azumanga.
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>>100040141
>not mentioning NNB
I hope you just forgot. If not you have shit taste.
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>>100039939

SOL isn't a dumbening down thing though - it's supposed to be relaxing, not something you dwell on. It's like taking a rest after a period of revision/studying and you need something to recharge with.
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>>100040180
NNB is iyashikei and you NEVER marathon iyashikei.

That's like chugging an entire bottle of medicine all at once.

SoL can be marathoned though.
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>>100040281
So is K-ON and Azumanga according to tvtropes.
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>>100040350
>So is K-ON and Azumanga according to tvtropes.
>according to tvtropes.

They are both highschool girls SOL but iyashiekei and SOL are not mutually inclusive of each other.
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>>100040350
tvtropes couldn't define themselves out of a paper bag
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>>100040350

>tvtropes
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>>100040439
I saw that after looking at the NNB page. tvtropes defines it differently on different pages.
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>>100040507

>looking at tvtropes
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>>100040597
First thing that came up after googling iyashikei.
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I couldn't even watch one entire episode of either without falling asleep
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>>100040350
>Giving any credit to TvTropes

Daily reminder that they censor or outright delete tropes they don't like.
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>>100040706
There are treatments for narcolepsy, anon
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>>100040706
Just take double of those ADHD pills you have.
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>>100039939
th-those pantsu...
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>>100040085
>SoL doesn't make you lose brain cells anon.

But that pic does... in the best way possible.
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>>100040439
You sound like the kind of guy who drives a cockmobile to work every day.
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>>100040865
this made me laugh too hard
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Which yuyu would you fuck?
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S2 announcement will happen next month
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>>100043989

None.
I'd cuddle Yui though
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>>100039939
Yuyushiki is actually one of the weirdest SoL out there. It'll grind your gears hard
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>>100039939
There are times where their riddles are good.
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>>100044217
Hontou?
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>>100045055

I hope he likes beans
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>>100045149
Classy beans
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>>100044337
Yuyu Yui > Yuru Yui
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You're not going to lose any brain cells on Yuyushiki, since they just browse Wikipedia for 22 minutes each episode. However, you will need to go pee since they keep mentioning going to the bathroom and that they gotta go piss...generally 2-3 times per episode for some fucking reason.
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>>100045147
Yeah, the ending was also leaked.

>Yui: Hey, Yuzuko! Yuzuko! Please answer me! Don't fall asleep! Don't close your eyes! Oh no, oh God no...
>Yukari: Don't give up, Yuzu-chan... I love you, I love youuu...
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>>100045331
They are the same girl.
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I don't recommend Lucky Star, but YuYuShiki is definitely something to watch.

Also check out Yuru Yuri, Nichijou, Non Non Biyori, and maybe Kill Me Baby.
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>>100039939
>marathoning SOL shows
You're doing it wrong.
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>>100045441
But that already aired!
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>>100045441
You're asking for this, anon.

http://pastebin.com/iYXMkJiZ
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I became enlightened after watching Yuyushiki, I didn't lose any brain cells
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>>100044337
>moon runes
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>>100045708
Does that mean Yukari wins Da Yui-bowl?
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>>100046441
Yes.
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>>100046441
It was there all along.
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>google translate "Yuyushiki"
Isn't it sad, Yuzu?
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>>100040350
tvtropes is neckbeard garbage. All the anime entries are about mainstream entry level shit and the authors overuse words like "epic", "awesome", and "epic win".

Who the fuck cares that in one episode "Rurouni Kenshin uses More Dakka when Kanryuusai, an illegal arms/drugs dealer decides to bring a machine gun to a swordfight. Kenshin can barely outrun the hail of bullets, but Aoshi gets his kneecaps shot and has to watch his loyal minions make a Heroic Sacrifice to buy Kenshin enough time to get his sword back."

Ha ha ha, you summarized a point in a tv show where a character shot a lot of bullets using a gun. That's so smart. Please submit this entry for your grade 4 book report and return to watching Let's Play Minecraft.

Take your tvtropes shit back to >>>/co/ , I like to think we're better than that here.
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>>100046852
Holy shit. This is great.
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>>100039939
you won't lose any with Lucky Star. Yuyushiki is another matter.
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>>100047100
It's ok to lose those brain cells that don't like Yuyushiki.
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>>100039939
>Lucky Star
One or two episodes at a time. You don't not marathon Lucky Star.
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>>100047100
>Losing more brain cells to Yuyushiki than to Lucky Star

Are you sure of what you're saying right now?
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>>100040085


>>100040095
That's the joke of the year.
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>>100040350
>tvtropes
I dropped them when they deleted one my favorite manga just on the pretext of pantsu.
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>>100040865
>ADHD pills
Those mellow me out anon. Then again I am ADHD.
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Open door, see this, what do you do?
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>>100046522
How is she there? That's the second floor.
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>>100047661
Turn it into a box threesome.
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>>100047662
She's got microscopic suction cups on her fingers. Like frogs.
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>>100047835
Microscopic cup size, huh?
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>>100047756
I wanna fuck Miura while she is wearing Danbo. I would love to have Yotsuba sitting watching us while we do it.
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>>100047941
Sexualizing the Yotsubas is not allowed!

Except Fuuka.
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>>100048032
But I just want to fuck Miura. She is practically begging for the D.
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>>100048149
Fine. But leave Yotsuba out of it.
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>>100048240
Well I don't want to fuck Yotsuba. So, that's a reasonable demand.
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>>100048341
Don't make her watch, is what I mean. You sick bastard.
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>>100047442
>just on the pretext of pantsu

It's not news that tvtropes is gay as fuck.
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>>100048436
I'll leave that up to her. I don't think she wants to watch anyway.
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>Any given thread
>devolving into tvtropes shitflinging
Sasuga /a/
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>>100048793
Fair enough. But you still disgust me.
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>>100046778
WHOA, WHAT?!
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>>100049011
Hay different strokes for different folks as they say.
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>>100051233
He says as he posts a children's dildo
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>>100039939
About a hundred thousand, but only because that's the average lost per day.
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>>100051449
Well what else would you fuck a kid with.
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>>100047254

This, because you can't consentrate to all the delicious nonsense they are sprouting.
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>>100046778
frightening
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>>100039939
only mecha and SHAFT shit makes you lose brain cells
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>>100053385
ur mom made me lose brain cells.
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They're almost the same anyway.
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>>100045441
They're helping Yuzu-chan study for an exam, but she is so worn out that she slowly starts to doze off. The girls try to motivate her to keep working hard!
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>>100054360
d'aw
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>>100055045
Is it unrealistic for me to hope that people will never stop making these MADs?
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>>100044337
Too heterosexual. Unacceptable.
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>>100045478
I...thought it was just us

But everyone wants Yuzu to suffer
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>>100059627
What do you mean "us"? I don't want any of the yuyus to suffer, you terrible person.
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>>100059627
But puppets can't know suffering.
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>>100059768
Oh don't lie you read the cancer stories along with the rest of us
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>>100060394
I wrote it. But it's not like I WANT her to suffer or anything. I was just inspired when I wrote it, I guess.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnywsUlHk-U
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>>100060614
Please use the original "vekfu" video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vekfuYxajRU
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>>100039939
What the fuck are you talking about? Yuyushiki is a fine, sophisticated show about data processing and dissociative identy disorder. You'd better have studied something IT and psychology related if you expect to fully grasp this anime.
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So uh, are we considering this the next Yuyushiki thread? Should I post the summary now, or wait until Yuyuesday? Poor OP probably isnt even here anymore.
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>>100060517
Maybe not, but when everyone, including you and me, observed the story then that made it the only possible outcome

We should have looked away and saved her

But we didn't
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>>100061160
The story's supposed to make you feel sad and increase your love for Yuzuko even more, not delight in her suffering.

Do you want me to write an alternate ending to the story where the power of Yui and Yukari's love kills all the cancer cells in Yuzuko's body and she recovers instantly?
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>>100061269
>He's just mad because Yuyushiki is 2deep4him

Go back to your Kill La Kill threads, kiddo. The BIG DOGS are trying to talk about the REAL savior of anime, here.
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>>100061265
Technically we do want her to suffer so that we can feel those things. In a way it is actually selfish, that we want this bad thing to happen to Yuzu so that we can love her even more through that sadness. Is that right to do? I don't know. I don't even know if there is a correct answer at all.

It's not easy to be a Yuyubro. We must question our actions and thoughts every moment of our life. But it's the way to enlightenment, of that I have no doubt.
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>>100061137
It's the weekend, may as well do it now.
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>>100045478
WHY
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>>100061739
I disagree. Though we're reading a piece of material in which Yuzu suffers, (and not in a comedic way like in the anime, like if it's legit suffering) then we still want her NOT to suffer. When reading, we're wishing for her to be safe and happy, without a single feeling of malice towards her.

I don't think we're going to spark a revolution of doujin works where terrible things happen to every yuyu with the excuse that it will cause sympathy in the readers, here. And I don't think anyone wants to take up the torch and write even more of it. I'd rather see doujins and fanworks of the Yuyus having happy times together, and being lesbians with each other, and all that.
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>>100054360
The Yuyushiki author used to be a Lucky Star doujin author, so it makes sense.
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>>100061860
Alrighty then.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/99693692/

Today's Summary:

>Live long and prosper, Fumi style
>The ridiculous scenarios just keep getting ridiculouser
>Yuzu's breath smells of fish, what else is new, am I rite?
>Yanderekari upgrades her arsenal
>The rewatchening begins yet again; no frame will be left unscreencapped
>Who has the cell phone remote?
>Dildogs make good gifts for all
>23DPD4ME
>A fine discussion about the things that come out of girlholes
>We gonna shoop some pics and screen some caps
>Yuyushiki live action movie never
>Do it for her
>Where we at?
>Saving Abraham Lincoln changed the past and turned all anime into Yuyushiki (I TOLD you this shit is getting ridiculouser)
>Yuyushikis and brewskis
>Venus de Yuzu
>Do it for butt
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>>100062142
What we want and what we are actually doing, even unknowingly, can be very different things. I'm not even sure I'm right, I'm just asking the question. Of course I want her to be happy too, but am I doing all I can to try and achieve that? That's all I want to know.

Are we her greatest friends and admirers by wishing for her not to suffer, or her greatest enemies by thinking of those horrible things in the first place?
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>>100040141
I finished reading Azumanga just few days ago, should I still watch it?
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I think I've thought of the worst one yet

Would you want a S2 of Yuyushiki if /yys/ immediately disbanded and all Yuyu threads from now on were only filled with shitposting
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>>100063759
If you liked the manga, sure.
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>>100039939
I don't remember this scene, is this from the BDs?
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>>100064081
It is! So you better go buy it quickly!
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Well may as well post the raws scanfriend put up
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>>100063323
Then I'm not entirely sure how to answer, but I don't even know if it's right to question the morality of this whole thing. It was a sad story written for the purpose of being sad, and I didn't want it to be looked into any further than that. I would only become concerned if, like I said, the writing of depressing Yuyushiki doujins actually became a thing, and we all got addicted to reading them.

This discussion is crossing into really grey territory and I'm not sure how to argue it further, but for now, I'm willing to say that it's NOT inherently bad to write a sad story like that. It's just letting writers explore their creative boundaries even further. If creative minds have to be constantly concerned about who they're offending, then they can't really write "freely," you know?

>>100063817
That's paradoxical, as S2 becoming a reality would only improve Yuyushiki threads and foster more discussion.
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>>100065811
Why does the author keep shipping Yui and Aikawa?
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I'm guessing that's what people chose as their favourite episode or scene?

Because fucking great choice for number 1 if it is
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>>100064081
It's actually an edit. Here's the original.

>>100065892
Because he has shit taste.
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>>100065892
Why wouldn't you

Best pair
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>>100066001
Those are the author's top 3 episodes.
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>>100066132
Ah okay

So I just love him more then, rather than everyone else. Fair enough
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>>100066001
I think it's referring to specifically the best scenes. The blurb right below "BEST2" says "Episode 10's npanpa", which is the onomatopoeia for the popping noise Yuzuko and Yukari make. I even remember Yui tells them "npanpa urusai!" at the end of that scene.
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>>100065932
The things I would yo Yui's body are probably not considered as "acceptable" by the catholic church.
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>>100066460
Sodomy, right?
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And it's not a Yuyu chapter without some Yukari laughter
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And that's the last page
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>>100066972
Thanks for the dump. Maybe one day we'll see this animated.
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>>100066618
>こわいこわいこわいこわいこわい
I wonder what's so scary? Maybe they saw hetero porn?
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>>100065843
Just so we're clear I really did like that you wrote it I'm just busting your balls here

>>100065843
>That's paradoxical, as S2 becoming a reality would only improve Yuyushiki threads and foster more discussion.

Well in reality it will

But in the scary land of my dumb hypotheticals...

Actually to make it worse, what if in exchange for S2 for Yuyushiki that ended up being the best season of any show, period, you had to give up all your memory of these threads and could never return to them, save for just a nagging feeling in the back of your head for the rest of your life that something's missing
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>tfw Polyaness is not a 100% obscure word anymore
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>>100067245
A movie with production costs higher than the sales... maybe, my rune reading skills are not so good.
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>>100067402
Yeah, but it's still enough to make you think.

As for that hypothetical, I think it's bad enough that Yuyushiki is already my favorite anime to such a point that I spend about 80% of my time on /a/ in these threads.

>>100067528
Don't tell me that's some kind of self-reference to the anime not selling good enough. But I assume this isn't a recently printed chapter, right? I figured that most, if not all of the 4koma was already finished before the anime.
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>>100068225
It is from January's issue (released in December).
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>>100068361
Oh, I guess I should use my eyes more often. Thanks.

But with that fact in mind, now it's even more possibly a hint at Yuyushiki's failure
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>>100068487
Is Yuzu smiling or is that her jawline?
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>>100068648
She's just putting on her brave face
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>>100068648
Jawline.
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Who is the best girl and why is it Fumi?
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>>100068928
Because
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>>100068928
Because all the yuyus are best girls, and Fumi is a yuyu, therefore Fumi is a best girl.
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Good night, /yys/.
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>>100069623
BYE
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>>100065932
I'm sorry you guys, but can we start dumping lewd?I really need some.
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>>100070266
Uh, you can try, but I don't think any lewd for Yuyushiki actually exists
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>>100070266
Absolutely not, you sick fuck. How could such a thought ever cross your mind?
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>>100039939

All Yuyus' asses are equally suited as face-pillows.

Yukari's ass is simply more equallier suiteder as a face-pillowerestiester.
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>>100071465
Now we both know that's not true
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>>100071604
I disagree.
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>>100071465
Sorry, Yukari Guy. I'm gonna have to agree with >>100071604

I mean, just LOOK at this booty.
>>100065932
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>>100040085
Is this show supposed to be ecchi or something? If so then I'm on board.
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>>100071744
No, it's pretty tame. There are a few "hell, it's an all girl cast, might as well slap them in bikinis and show their curves" fanservicey moments from time to time, but it's not the focus of the show.
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>>100071604
>>100071735

COUNTERPOINT
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Yui's ass is too fat to be used as a face-pillow. It would suffocate you.
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>>100071851
HER ASS ONLY LOOKS BIG HERE BECAUSE OF PERSPECTIVE SHENANIGANRY, AND HER ASS IS WAY CLOSER TO THE CAMERA THAN ANY OF HER OTHER BODY PARTS.
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>>100072063

BUTT IT IS JUST SO ROUND AHAHAHA I MADE A FUNNY BUTT GET IT BUTT AHAHAHAHA
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>>100072152
>GET IT

N-no...
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>>100069022
That would make a glorious wallpaper if it kept panning to the city to the left
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>>100071846
Darn, thought there was finally an anime that focused on the ass for once. Oh well, back to Strike Witches then.
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>>100072063
Wait, isn't it against standard water park rules to go down a water slide all at once like that? Someone's gonna get hurt, yo.
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>>100072544
Looked more like it was just a pool than a water park
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>>100072524
Even though it's not an ecchi show, there's still plenty of ass to enjoy. Though even if you pick it up for the butts and boobs, you'll stay because the show is pretty damn charming and the characters are all very likable.

>>100072578
What kind of pool has a water slide like that?
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>>100072686
Glorious superior Nihon master race pools
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>>100072686

>that couple that looks like they've never seen a couple of raging dykes before
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>>100072686
Yuzubutt is a true hidden asset
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>>100072975
Every yuyu has magnificent hindquarters.
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>>100073022
Yuzu's stance is so provocative
I think this might be the first time a Yuyu has made me reach atleast half mast
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>>100072929
>that girl touching herself at the back watching the raging dykes playing with each other
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>>100072929
Yuyushiki has the best background characters.

Anyone have a better quality screencap? I just google image'd this one since I can't find it in my folder.
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Mombutt is best butt, as verified by her roommates
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>>100073180
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>>100073303
'arry gato.
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>>100073180
>>100073303
Or alternatively
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I'm rewatching the show and screencapping as much stuff that I haven't seen in these threads as I can.

See, no one ever remembers Satou-san and Smith-san.
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Seriously, though.
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The world could always use more smug/contempt Yui.
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S2
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never
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>>100074190
>>100074250
S2
announced
tomorrow
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That's about it, I guess.
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>>100074298
And the police are still hunting for the sniper
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>>100074370
The sniper was Yukari
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>>100074437
I can never pick the twists in this show
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>>100074512
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>>100075429
>sniper Yukari
>Ah, it got me!
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>>100039939
I don't remember this scene.
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>>100075954
It's a good thing they managed to remove the bullet, but she never could remember things that well afterwards...
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>>100039939

One of the color of their panties don't match their hair color
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>>100076410
Wow, either you remember this episode really well or this is just a great big coincidence.

Just spent the past 20 minutes or so trying to figure out why the fuck MPC-HC wasn't letting me take screenshots with subtitles in them, and I was toggling a bunch of output settings until I got it to work. What a pain in the ass.
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>>100077763
Of course I remember it. I could never forget anything Yuyushiki related

Also how exactly did you get MPC to take screencaps with subtitles I never been able to work it out
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>>100078022
Google led me to this forum page: http://forums.bakabt.me/index.php?topic=28617.0

Just download DirectVobSub and set it up onto MPC as the thread instructs. Then Options > Playback > Output, and enable EVR Custom Pres. and both DirectX 9s.

I'm only spoonfeeding this much because I just went through hell working it out on my own and I figure I don't want anyone else to have to put up with it.
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WBest girl.
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>>100078508
There is no worst yuyu. Kei exists solely to fill the spot of worst yuyu by default, even though she's not all that bad once you get to know her. She'll let you touch Aikawa's chest, after all.
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>>100078383
Thanks, friend
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>>100039939
/a/ is not your blog. At least start your threads more appropriately.

>>100061137
That's okay. 2 times a week is better than 12 times a week. These threads are usually pretty chill and cute. However, the OP reeks of blogging and faggotry and this thread is full of retarded trolls like >>100061445
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1 less than all of them
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>>100079009

>>100061445 is my post. I was just being sarcastic about it, if "BIG DOGS" wasn't enough of a tip-off.
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>>100078926
No problem.
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>>100079135
Word of advice. Shitflinging = shitposting.
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>>100079294
Point?
Anon was obviously making a joke
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>>100079294
I guess I should have included a nantsutte or something in that post just to make it extra clear, but I guess you're right.
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>>100079508
Don't joke about things like that, anon
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>>100079648
>Tamazon
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Don't listen to the faggots talking down lucky star OP. It's one of the highest selling and most popular SoLs for a reason, pretty sure only K-ON beats it in terms of pure numbers.

Similar characters too, Yui=Kagami Yuzuko=Konata-tan <3 Yukari=Tsukasa and the data processing club computers= Miyuki.

Give it a go, it starts to greatly improve in quality after episode 4.
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>>100080645
>It's one of the highest selling and most popular SoLs for a reason

I think that's because it's one of the most entry-level SoLs ever made.
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>>100080771
I don't think that word means what you think it means
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>>100080645
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>>100081507
>>100081761
>>100082767
>all this unnecessary hatred for the luckies
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>>100083147

>unnecessary

Lucky Star = Family Guy for otaku.

They both have extremely ADD-addled pacing which changes subjects every 30 seconds or so.

They both rely heavily on "lol so randum" humor.

Lucky Star relies on otaku references in the same way Family Guy relies on pop culture references.

Neither show is funny.

The main difference is that Lucky Star is actually worse because every episode isn't actually a television show, it's just a 24 minute long Haruhi commercial about uninteresting characters doing uninteresting things in an uninteresting setting.

Except for that one jagoff who sang at the end sometimes. That guy was funny.
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>>100083279
Please don't tell me someone from /yys/ is the retard who post that in the lucky star threads
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I decided to not even bother with Lucky Star after watching a single episode

dubbed
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>>100083279
Nichijou is the family guy for otaku

Admit it
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>>100080645
>Yukari=Tsukasa
Yukari=Yukari, no one in Yuyushiki is like Tsukasa, Ai-chan=Ayano, Kei=Misao and no one in Lucky Star is like Fumi.
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>>100083673
No. It's not based on reference humor.
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>>100083717
Lucky Star neither
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>>100083717
But Family Guy's actual humour is so loosely based on references that it may as well be entirely classes as that 'lol so randumb' sort of style

Especially as it's primary audience isn't of an age that understands majority of the references thrown at them anyway

I really don't like Family guy
But I like Lucky Star
I took huge offence
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>>100083887
>browsing 4chan when one is this easily offended
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>>100083942
Only when it comes to Family guy

Other than that I can cop it on the chin like a real little girl man
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>>100083806
I've said it before responding to that same pasta. You aren't supposed to laugh at the references that Konata makes, I don't even know half the anime she references, you're supposed to laugh at the tsundere reactions that Kagami has about them. The whole show is based in tsukkomixboke humor, the references are meaningless.
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>>100084080
>basing a show's humor on tsukkomi, the worst archetype
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>>100084080
...was that image supposed to be funny?
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>>100084149
Of course because Yuyushiki isn't based in bokextsukkomixboke right?
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>>100060394
Can you give me a link?
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>>100084149
Even though Yui isn't strictly that because none of the Yuyus completely follow an archetype but come on
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>>100084149
What is yuyushiki?
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>>100084203
Was this image supposed to be funny?
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>>100084249

It was up here

>>100045708
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>>100084210
Yuyushiki is half comedy, half iyashikei, so the comedy is only half the focus, and much more of the humor is based on pure silliness or lewdness than boke/tsukkomi. Yes, there's boke/tsukkomi dynamic in there, but it's generally the weakest form of humor in the show.
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>>100083629
Well there's your problem.

Though I don't think the content would change much between dub and sub, so if you didn't like the dub for any reason other than shitty voices, you probably wouldn't like the show at all.
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>>100065892
Because Yui is a yuri magnet.
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>>100084351
Yuzu's faces are pretty hilarious there, as usual. Bokes are way funnier than tsukkomis.
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>>100084374
I like yuyushiki and lucky star for the boke/tsukkomi, the iyashikei is nice, but I don't consider it the main focus of yuyushiki. The relaxing OST is still awesome anyway.
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>>100084400
For me it's the exact turning point where an SoL ACTUALLY becomes talking about absolutely nothing so I couldn't be bothered watching more
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>>100084496
Yamakan was fired for that episode anyway.
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>>100084550
The series gets no better after he leaves. It's all the same shit. The entire series actually makes a conscious effort to be as mundane as possible.
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>>100084351
It actually is kind of funny how the boke/tsukkomi interaction works itself into the theme of the discussion (Yukari and Yuzuko deducing that Yui is indeed not an M after she proceeds to slap their shit). It's kinda clever.
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>>100084594
Nah, that's like saying yuyushiki remains the same the entire series.
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>>100084688

But, anon, Yuyushiki remains like bathing in a rainbow in the middle of a field of blooming lilies while listening to smooth jazz through a diamond boombox throughout the entire series, silly goose.
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I'm losing my shit over the fact that OP set himself up for an inevitable Yuyushiki vs. Lucky Star argument and it's finally happening almost 250 posts later.
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>>100084594
The series gets significantly better after Yamakan left

What the hell were you watching?

That's like saying Azumanga doesn't get funnier after the first episode and it obviously does. The first episode was a dud
akin to the first 4 LS episodes being mostly forgettable
Keep in mind I fucking love both
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>>100084824
>What the hell were you watching?
Shit.
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>>100040430
Neither is really "SoL."

That word has really lost its meaning around here when people apply it to things like fucking Nichijou. I mean, Jesus, what does that have in common with Aria or Tamayura? Have you contemplated for one second what that word means?
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>>100084860
Evidently you have shit on the underside of your corneas

Because it turns into gold later
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>>100084796
All the scary angry people woke up
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>>100084942
Evidently you have gold on the underside of your corneas.
>but I can't see it!
How can you see gold on the underside of your corneas if you have gold on the underside of your corneas?
He fell in love with the girl in the lime green panties because she was the only girl he could fuck and not fall in love with.
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>>100084990
I don't know what's the point of the discussion, nobody said anything when I posted >>100054360
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>>100085133
For one thing, that's a Lucky Star doujin drawn by the Yuyushiki author, not an official Lucky Star 4koma. It's not like the two are ripping each other off or anything, Komata just took a scenario he used in Yuyushiki and applied it to some characters from another series that he likes.
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>>100085270
I know that, so what? Why start hating on it when something "official" gets posted?
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>>100084990
I've been up for hours upon hours can't sleep

However bigoted comments from typically peaceful /yys/ anons has riled everyone up

Unless it's those that don't particularly participate in /yys/ threads
I only say this because every LS thread gets spammed by scumbags
Calm the fuck down and take it easy
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>>100085472
>I only say this because every LS thread gets spammed by scumbags
Because /a/ doesn't like it because it's a bad anime.
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So is Yuyushik about some students in a special ed class? I don't think i have ever seen an anime focus on mentally challenged people before. This could be a new untapped market!
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>>100085540
That's like saying yuyushiki is a bad anime, and no, this >>100084764 won't work again.
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>>100085540
>because several shitposters don't like it because it's popular anime
FTFY
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>>100085444
I'm not hating on it, and I never did. But I'm saying it's a different situation when the same author uses a similar joke twice in two different work, and when two authors are literally stealing one another's jokes.
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>>100084796
As awesome as Yuyushiki is, I couldn't just let this whole thread go by without celebrating the greatness that it らき☆すた.

It's unfortunate that there are so many people with such shit taste that always have to rub their dislike for the show in everybody's face. Sorry for waking the beast...
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>>100085674
You never had to be forgiven tripfag

The thread was to be shared but apparently that's not possible
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Hey guys... when you eat food, you're eating part of the universe.
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>>100085585
Not sure if you're trolling or not, but all the talk about puppets and whatever is just half-serious speculation that's easily disproven if you actually watch an episode or two.

There are no mentally challenged people in Yuyushiki, just a really smart/cunning girl and a ditzy girl who both play the fools to the stern girl's straight man.
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>>100085656
Ok, I never implied that anyway, this isn't the first time I post that picture.
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>>100085869
When you exist and every time you move a limb or interact with anything you're interacting with electron upon election and molecule and molecule that interacts with the entire universe as a whole
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>>100085964

When you exist, particles almost too small to be observed even with the most advanced technology under the most perfect conditions are literally blowing your body apart at the molecular level.
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>>100085869
Everytime you fap over a 2D girls, you're fapping over part of the universe.
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>>100086053
When our sun dies and forms a new black hole we'll be close enough to be sucked in and put under such severe gravitational stress that everything will be squished together and then we truly will be 2D with the Yuyus
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>>100086202
At this very moment, we're flying through space at millions of miles per hour. If the earth were to randomly and abruptly stop at any moment, we would all be flung into the atmosphere and likely burn to a crisp.
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>>100086202
Whow
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>>100086202

Actually, our sun isn't large enough to form a black hole, but will grow into a red giant and then eventually turn into a black dwarf. But here's the real mind-blower:

What if hell is real, and "hell" means your spirit never leaves Earth once you die, meaning you're destined to be swallowed up by the Sun in its red giant phase?
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>>100086422
Fuck your science I believe in crush death

Hell is losing both your sight and hearing and never being able to experience Yuyushiki again
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>>100086422
Then "heaven" would be getting to escape this miserable mortal plane and taking refuge in the glorious realm of the 2D for all eternity, right?
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>>100086422

>our sun isn't large enough to form a black hole

Well, yeah, Miyako isn't, but I dunno about Hiro...
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>>100086601

I was thinking Neo Venezia, but close enough.
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>>100055305
Always remember that Yuyushiki is actually a show about the suicidal youth of Japan and the warning signs to look out for.
At the end of series two they'll all go camping in Aokigahara and the following episode will consist of Yui and Yukari blaming themselves and discussing the signs.
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>>100086682
>Literally just turned on Undine in my media player as this was posted

Weird. But when the sun implodes on itself or whatever, NOTHING in this solar system will be safe, not even Mars/Aqua. But taking refuge in the glorious realm of the 2D for all eternity could easily entail spending that time in Neo-Venezia, you know.
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>>100086422
Wouldn't it be a brown dwarf? I thought black dwarfs were entirely theoretical and were just white/browns that reached a period in which they consume all of the remaining hydrogen and fall permanently dormant

But that the time it takes for this process to happen extends past the assumed universe' age

Heaven is just the pearly gates, but god is Osaka and all the yuyus, azumangas, keions, lukies, sketchbooks, hidamaris, hyakkos, yuruyuris and their kin sorry if I forgot your favourite were the archangels
and every /a/non can roam free amongst them and live an eternity of pure happiness and glory
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>>100086886

>I'm married to God
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>>100086937
Fuck. I fucking knew Yukari Guy had connections to god. I just knew it.
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>>100086937
congratulations anon

Maybe you can have some hand in fixing the world in the second coming
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>>100086886
>>100086937

Wait. So if I'm married to God, that makes me a priest?
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Man these threads seems lush as fuck.
Im gonna watch Yuyushiki just so I can participate before /a/ innevitly ruins eveything good.
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>>100086937
>>100086886

I always thought this might be the case
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>>100087042
I believe it makes you a nun dude
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>>100086886
Can there be a few 2D boys there too? I mean it's only fair everyone is welcome. But only a few.

>>100087042
No it makes you a __nun__
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>>100087002
So he's not even Yukariguy, he's actually Osakaguy
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>>100087058
Yeah, it's pretty comfy in these threads, man. Unlike a lot of yuri/SoL threads on /a/, we don't argue about which girl is best, as we've all come to unanimous agreement that all yuyus are equal. Trust me when I say that GREATLY improves discussion quality.
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>>100086202
>we truly will be 2D with the Yuyus
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>>100087203
Yeah but Yukari is Purple Osaka so it works out
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>>100087203
This was apparent from the start. Yukari Guy always talks about how Osaka is his waifu. And there's a reason why some of the filenames in the Yukari pack are "purpleosaka.png"
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>>100087176
All of the Kimitobokus will be there

Hopefully one suits everyone's tastes
I am a bit of a Shun fan myself
and every other all male SOL
not that I've seen more than two
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>>100086859
>Literally just turned on Undine
>File name is has Aria in it.
You're doing this on purpose right?
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>>100087372
Hah. That's actually kinda funny. Undine is the name of the OP of Aria the Animation.
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>>100039939

Maybe YYS will eventually get another season and Yui will wake up to the fact at least three people want to fuck her. Please just stop teasing me with the gay Japan, let them attempt to procreate.
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>>100087212

Except Yukari is simply more equalleriester.

Also, OK. Hear me out. 2D right now for us is just 1's and 0's, right?

Well, any technological society, assuming it doesn't off itself, will eventually gain the computing power to create a simulation so complex that it is indistinguishable from reality, with fully simulated physics, etc. In all likelihood, said civilization wouldn't just do this once, it'd do this many times.

Left to run long enough, these simulations would then contain civilizations which would create simulations within the simulations, and so forth, leading to an infinite number of simulations.

This means that, mathematically, we are almost assuredly living in one of these simulations right now. Scientists are already noticing "limits" in the laws of physics which resemble the kinds of hard limits one would see in a computer simulation. Also, you know how computer games only simulate what they need to in order to conserve computing power? And you know how particles have an indeterminate position until they're actually observed. Yeah.

So basically, what I'm saying, is if 2D to us is just 1's and 0's, and the mathematics say we're almost all living in a simulation, that means that we are the same as 2D.
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>>100087699
If the yuyus ever develop to the point of actually pursuing their sexualities, the fun times will have to come to an end.

Remember how Yuru Yuri is locked in a time loop specifically so that their high school days will never end, and there can continue to be more and more episodes/chapters about holidays and field trips and such? Status quo is law in non-story-driven works like this.
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>>100087875
IT'S ALL THE SAME
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>>100087742
Dude you're BLOWING MY MIND RIGHT NOW.

But get this: Even if, as you say, we're all simply even more equally simulations-ier, it doesn't change the fact that we're still locked within our own respective dimensions. Presumably, the people who programmed our current reality are completely incapable of interacting with us, just as we're incapable or interacting with our own simulations, or at least that's the point we're at right now.

So unless technology emerges to where we can extend our lifespans incredibly far, or even suspend our consciousness in machines or data clouds, we're still incapable of crossing those borders as of now.
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>>100087962

So meta it's hurts.
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>>100087742
I remember watching a video of that on youtube and it absolutely blew my mind. About how particles travelling through a hole would create a wave pattern if observed (or not observed, I dont remember). Then I saw this theory that if any civilization could create a simulation so complex it would seem like reallity, odds are we exist within one. It just seemed so connected man. How particles acts differently when observed, almost as if they are programmed to save RAM or something.
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>>100088154

>Presumably, the people who programmed our current reality are completely incapable of interacting with us

But what if ghosts are the way people from where we were programmed interact with us?

By the way, ghosts are real. I lived in a haunted house. True story. I'm as naturally skeptical and non-superstitious of a human being as you'll ever meet. Agnostic, etc. Ghosts are fucking real, I promise you this. I don't know exactly what they are, but what people refer to as "ghosts" do exist. The one in my house used to like to whip my mouse cord back and forth while I was using it to scare me, amongst other things.
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>>100088364
It never ends
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>>100088364
Then of course, you have to wonder what happens when we die. Does all the information we've collected over the years get dumped into the abyss, or is it recycled/backed up somewhere? If that's true, then reincarnation would be true, right? What if the Catholic perception of Purgatory is actually the recycle bin?
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>>100088445
I for one dont believe ghosts are real, I do belive the human immagination can cook up anything to give answers to their respectfull owners.
>The one in my house used to like to whip my mouse cord back and forth while I was using it to scare me, amongst other things
I laughed heartly anon. Do elaborate on the "other things" though.
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>>100088445
If Ghosts are real then why doesn't the Puppet Master have a ghost?
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>>100087875
The fun would be over for a while only. They'd find their new group dynamic eventually and they love each other enough as friends that things would turn happy again fairly quickly
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>>100088445
I've never experienced paranormal activity, yet I don't doubt its existence, either. I'm like you, skeptical, non-superstitious, agnostic, but by that same token, I live by the philosophy that if I don't know that it exists, then there's a possibility that it most certainly can exist and I just have never come into contact with it.

A few weeks ago, my mom told me about how, when she drove through the cemetery one time, she saw a very large and tall figure of a man in plaid clothing slowly shambling aimlessly towards the forest, where there's absolutely nothing, and when he saw her, he turned around and started slowly shambling towards her. It never reached her and she's fine, but she still swears she saw it and she's one of the most devout Christians I know. It COULD have been some random dude, but it just sounds fishy for that to be the case to me.

But anyway, my point is... Wait, what was I trying to say again?
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>>100088561
Call me a cynic, but when we die, its over. I immagine it will be the same as before we were born. Remember how those 14 billion years just flew by in an instant, and then you were here on earth? Me neither.
I do however love theoretical physics, its like reading sci-fi novels. After I learned about alot of this stuff, I stumbled upon The Matrix on TV one night, man oh man, the things we miss when we look only for the action as kids..
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>>100088577
How Can Ghosts Be Real If Our Puppets Aren't Real?
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>>100088881
>Remember how those 14 billion years just flew by in an instant, and then you were here on earth? Me neither.

Get a load of this guy

I remember it all, get a better brain bro
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Whow. Are we entering some sort of /a/,/x/ and /yys/ realm?
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>>100088572

>Do elaborate on the "other things" though.

It was a prankster. Apparently a young boy died in a fire on that property like 100 years ago. Maybe it was him. Anyways,

- There was a door to our laundry room in my computer room which we always kept locked from the side of the computer room because the laundry room had a sliding glass door which went outside. It used to jiggle the knob as if someone was trying to open the door to scare me.
- It would randomly turn on various water faucets frequently.
- Sometimes I'd wake up in the middle of the night and Beethoven would be playing softly in the CD player in the living room. Every time there would be the imprint of a person sitting on the couch.
- A friend of the family once said "I don't believe in this nonsense you keep telling me about a ghost. If there's a ghost here why haven't I seen it?" The moment he said that an orange orb of light went flying across the room. I shit you not, saw it with my own eyes.
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>>100088881
I was going along with the whole simulation theory, but yeah, I do find it hard to believe that there's anything waiting for us after we die. But at the same time, a part of me hopes that there's some kind of paradise on the other side, or that we'll reincarnate and experience life again, while losing the memories of our past life. You could have reincarnated a million times by now and have never known. I could have been King Tut in a past life for all anyone knows. I want to come back as a kawaii Japanese girl next time though~
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>>100088989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny7uGEPgoXk
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>>100088864
It was nothing, paranormal things don't exist
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>>100088989
What, you thought we were joking when we all said Yuyushiki was deep?

WE NEVER JOKE
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>>100087742
>Scientists are already noticing "limits" in the laws of physics which resemble the kinds of hard limits one would see in a computer simulation

Gonna need a citation on that, and not just the double slit experiment.
Give me more examples.
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>>100088989
You've just crossed over... into The Yulight Zone.
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>>100089243
Shit I didn't even see >>100089190 before posting my post.
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>>100089231

>double slit experiment

Were the Yuyus involved in this?
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>>100089231
The speed of light
Absolute zero
Those two I can come up with at the top of my head, and I'm no physicist.
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I wasn't ready to read all that shit. Kind of freaks me out.
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>>100089221

But they do. As stated above, I've seen them with my own eyes, more than once. You can trust me, I'm Yukari Guy.
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>>100089316
THAT'S ENOUGH
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>>100089365
Your eyes can easly decieve you anon, trust me, the things the human mind can do is mindblowing. Not to discredit you or anything, but any of those things can be explained by simple psycholgical phenomena. Like sleepwalking, or hallucinations.
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>>100089231
I read about this recently; it's something to do with the energy of cosmic rays (among other things).

>technologyreview.com/view/429561/the-measurement-that-would-reveal-the-universe-as-a-computer-simulation/

Not the best source, but you can do your own research from here if you're interested.
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Can I expect a /yys/ remake of Altered States at any time in the future?

I would pay thousands
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>>100089361
Absolute zero is as easy to explain as microscopic matter simply coming full-stop. You can't move any less than "not moving at all", simulation or not. Though the speed of light I can kind of agree with, as it does seem a bit arbitrary for there to not be infinite speed.
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>>100089499

Except I have never sleepwalked and if those were hallucinations then I've never hallucinated in my life except in that house and whilst under the influence of psilocybin. I can appreciate your healthy dose of skepticism but dude, I'm telling you, that shit is real, mein schwartzenfreund.

>>100089462

Were long, skinny objects involved in this?
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>>100089633
Just stop. Ghosts aren't real.
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>>100089589

I, too, always thought it was kind of bullshitty that there was an ultimate speed limit in physics.
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>>100089589
Believe it or not, but the thing that limits light particles from moving any faster is time. Time works as the speed regulator in our universe. I dont quite remember the exact explanation behind it, but Steven Hawkins explains it in a documentary thats on youtube.

>>100089633
How do you know you have never hallucinated in your life while sober? Think about it.
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>>100089727
See also: Planck length, Planck time.
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>>100089722
Can you prove that?
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>>100089794
I can prove that you're an attention-whoring shitposter. Close enough?
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>>100087742
>>100088154
>>100088364
You remind me of a certain popular Japanese novel series that is a horror story for the first two books, but then in the third one that story takes a sudden simulated reality twist similar to what you said, completely out of nowhere.
>>100088561
There are billions of us already, and that's if you count only humans, which is very arrogant. There is no need to store information for every individual. But, even though I'm an agnostic, I agree that the idea of reincarnation sounds appealing. I like it much more that the concept of paradise. But even though I like it, I can't believe in it - death being the ultimate end for out consciousness seems like the most possible outcome to me.
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>>100089727
It's not a speed limit. You could go beyond the speed of light if you could find a way to stop your mass from becoming infinite when you reach that speed, or so the theory holds
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>>100089776

>Planck time
>Theoretically, this is the smallest time measurement that will ever be possible

So, time in our universe can actually be divided into units which literally can't be any shorter? Because time in a simulation would be divided into units which literally couldn't be any shorter as well.
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>>100089839
Chill, man, I'm not trying to start anything.

People don't know everything. People haven't experienced everything. And the scope of your knowledge is vastly smaller than the scope of all human knowledge, past and present. I've never seen anything ghostly in my life, but that doesn't qualify me to say that ghosts aren't out there somewhere.
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>>100089903
I know, right? Isn't it cool?
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>>100089995
Oh, I should say "the scope of your AND MY knowledge," or just "the scope of an individual's knowledge." Don't mean to sound rude or condescending.
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>>100089589
>Though the speed of light I can kind of agree with, as it does seem a bit arbitrary for there to not be infinite speed.

Not really. If you count "speed" as "something moving", there should be a point where, by definition, all your molecules would be moving so fast you'd disintegrate or at least lose your form. That's where the whole E=MC^2 comes in, mass going at light's speed squared would equal pure energy.
So it's not a speed limit, it's just... the fastest thing we can see, so we use it as a measurement to everything else.

>>100089903

I don't get your reasoning, if we can't go beyond a theoretical lower and upper limit, we aren't real? Maybe we will in due time find a smaller ratio of t=s/v, maybe we won't, but what matters is that to the human race, finding absolutes is always pleasing and it's even more amazing to find something beyond.
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>>100039939
Dopamine doesn't kill your brain cells, anon.
Also, it will make you happy and boost your immune system.

It will also heal your broken heart with that cozy feeling of love!
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>>100089316

Which Yuyu is most likely to possess a thick, fragrant, unshaven bush for me to bury my nose into and inhale deeply? I think it's Yui.

Also, if we're in a simulation, does the fact that I just had this thought mean that our creators are fucking perverts?
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>>100089903
>Because time in a simulation would be divided into units which literally couldn't be any shorter as well.
Can it be divided into units though? Because time is not a constant at all planes, it is relative. A factor like gravity will change it, making it go slower the greater the mass time encounters.
This also makes travelling forward in time theoretically posibble by the way, which I think is fucking cool.
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>>100090212
>I don't get your reasoning, if we can't go beyond a theoretical lower and upper limit, we aren't real?
No offence, I think you should google around and read up on this a bit. It's fascinating stuff, and the point is basically that yes, such 'graininess' is a good indication of our universe being a simulation.
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>>100090212
Not him, but it doesn't directly mean IF X THEN Y. He's just drawing comparisons between the limitations of reality and the limitations of a computer simulation, and saying it's a piece of evidence, or a possibility.

Also, at the same time, saying a piece of data can't get infinitely smaller is a fallacy, right? If it's data we're talking about, then you can just keep throwing 0s into .00001 forever, and we'll still be able to keep going.
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>>100090350

Time could still be divided into units with gravity simply being a mathematical variable.
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>>100090395
But anon, data isn't real.

Anyway, in a computer simulation, if you keep dividing a float, you'll eventually lose precision and ultimately end up at zero. That's like what the Planck length is, the limit of how precise a float can be when describing distance.
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>>100090317
Nice way to bring the thread back on track, anon. I'm gonna go with the lesser expected option and say it might be Yukari.

And it's probably not too unrealistic to assume that all technology must have a creator. Therefore, if we're the Xth simulated reality in a long line of other simulated realities, there must have been a point where civilization actually WAS organic living and breathing beings, and as we know, every living thing strives to procreate, meaning every living thing thinks about sex, meaning that everything is technically perverted. Unless this cycle of simulations started with an asexually producing race.
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I love you, /yys/.
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>>100090374

Then I will, thanks.

>>100090395
>and saying it's a piece of evidence, or a possibility.

Ah, true. I got too aggressive there, sorry.

>>100090535
>Unless this cycle of simulations started with an asexually producing race.

Like robots
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Another thing to consider is that since a simulation can never match the complexity of the universe in which it exists, each level of simulation 'above' us would be more complex, with richer laws of physics and probably all kinds of other stuff incomprehensible to us.
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>>100090350

http://io9.com/how-much-does-antimatter-weigh-492195828
>They find that the ratio is somewhere between -65 and 110.
>this means that it's possible antimatter has negative mass
>this means that it's possible that traveling backwards in time is possible via antimatter
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>>100090682
But then someone would have had needed to create those robots. Someone living. And that creator could have easily been a pervert.
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>>100090755
Travelling backwards in time has one problem that defies the possibility though. And that is paradoxes, like the man who assembles a gun, goes back in time and shoots himself while assembling it. How can he shoot himself with a gun he never finished assembling?
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>>100090535

But Yukari can just pay people to shave her for her.
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>>100090763
>And that creator could have easily been a pervert
you can take a guess at what she's scanning for
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>>100090763
The robots could have spontaneously assembled. You never know. I mean, what were the odds of life on Earth spontaneously assembling? And yet, it happened, or at least it happened on some other planet and then got here on a comet or something.

Also, who says robots can't be perverts in their own way?
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>>100090887

>Travelling backwards in time has one problem that defies the possibility though. And that is paradoxes

Not if traveling backwards in time creates an entirely new timeline.
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>>100090887
Alternate time lines
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All this talk just makes me think about which Yuyu would you be okay with getting into a spaceship accident with, on humanity's maiden voyage to Mars, that leaves you both drifting through space for the rest of your lives? You'd still have radio contact with earth and so still be able to talk to the other Yuyus when the opportunity arises, but it would mostly be just you and your chosen Yuyu together

>>100090887
That's only a problem if time is a linear line oh fuck now where's heading into steins;gate territory abort ABORT
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>>100090887
Grandpa paradox is averted with the theory John Titor spoke of, that when you travel back, you are actually traveling into a different timeline, or dimension, in which you suddenly show up.
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>>100090972
So we're moving into the realm of multiverses and superpositions? Que Schroedingers cat.
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>>100090887
>>100090965
>>100090972
>>100090989
No no no, please stop, none of you have any idea how time travel works.
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>>100091023
And you do? John Titor?
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>>100090917
Doesn't mean she does.

>>100090935
As I said, the "original creators" could have easily been asexual creatures, and I suppose it's not entirely impossible for them to be self-assembled robots, either. It's just as possible for them to have been sexual creatures, too. All this was to answer the question of whether our creators were perverts or not, and now we're just kind of splitting hairs over it.
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>>100091013
2014

When /yys/ literally become Yuyushiki
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>>100090989

Yukari would just be so chill to be with.
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>>100091106
I like you.
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I love when /yys/ becomes all /x/.
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>>100091053
It's not that hard; the 'grandfather paradox' is ridiculous and falls apart with just a bit of critical thinking. Travelling back in time wouldn't allow you to 'change history'; everything that happened up to the point when you jump back has already happened. By going back in time, your perspective changes, but the events have already played out, and you're a part of them. This isn't like 'destiny' or any such nonsense, but a physical fact.

See what I mean?
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>>100091196
Exactly what I mean.
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>>100091236
Fixed Timeline is the only option that's not nonsensical or magic.
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>>100091196
In linear time there is a paradox. If not, what happens when you go back to try and kill (or even talk to) yourself?
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>>100091106

Okay, so like, potatoes are generally grown from small pieces of potato with an eye, and that small piece eventually becomes a big-ass potato, growing from nutrients in the dirt.

So when you're eating potatoes, you're eating dirt.
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>>100091330
But what's the problem with multiverse?
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>>100091196
> Travelling back in time wouldn't allow you to 'change history'; everything that happened up to the point when you jump back has already happened. By going back in time, your perspective changes, but the events have already played out, and you're a part of them.
And, if you have detailed knowledge of those events, what exactly stops you from acting differently?
The world line theory makes more sense here. And the complete impossibility of traveling backwards in time makes the most sense.
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>>100091342
You could try to kill yourself, but obviously you didn't succeed, because you're not dead. And the conversation would just be awkward, because you would remember everything you said to yourself. No paradox, though.
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>>100091409
Man I would suck my dick like a slut
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>>100091410
>what exactly stops you from acting differently?
The human mind isn't a magical entity. Free will doesn't actually exist. You're a collection of matter, and you've already acted in a certain way. Just because it's happening 'now' from your perspective doesn't change the fact that it already happened a certain way.
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>>100091409
>obviously you didn't succeed
Then you can't time travel to five minutes ago and talk to yourself, or not? If you can't, because it would create a paradox if you were able to, then that's exactly why the grandfather paradox says it's impossible.

>And the conversation would just be awkward
Giving myself winning lotto numbers isn't awkward.

>you would remember everything you said to yourself
So "me" from the future comes back with winning lotto numbers. Then by the time I'm his age I decide NOT to go back and give the numbers. That would mean nobody came to give them to me. Paradox -> can't happen. At least not in linear time.
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>>100091356
It keeps happening
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>>100091482

I, too, consider our thoughts and actions to merely be the result of our brains' physics-obeying electrical and chemical reactions to stimuli, therefore meaning that free will does not exist.

Fuck yes, it's not my fault that I'm a pervert who thinks about the Yuyus' veritable forests down there.
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>>100091356
No, most of the mass of plants is actually drawn from the air. I mean, when you grow a potted plant, the dirt doesn't disappear, right? And biomass is mostly carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen. Only water and some minerals are taken from soil.

The more you know.
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>>100091547
>Giving myself winning lotto numbers isn't awkward.

From a logical standpoint though, you wouldn't even be the least bit surprised if YOU appeared in front of yourself?
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>>100091559

Water is also in potatoes. When drunks pee in an alleyway, or when animals pee in the wild, that eventually evaporates, goes up into the clouds, then is rained down on potato farms.

When you eat potatoes, you're eating pee.
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>>100091547
Don't think about these events from your perspective, think of them as an absolute timeline.
>Then by the time I'm his age I decide NOT to go back and give the numbers.
Too bad, faggot, you already did. Everything up until the point when you jumped back already happened.
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>>100091569
>veritable forests

It's a relief to find someone else who doesn't like it shaved down there.
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>>100091655
Probably, but what difference does that make to the thought experiment?
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>>100091668
But that means I could get pregnant from eating potatoes I don't want that!
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>>100091668
This one is actually true. Almost all the water on the planet has been consumed by at least one animal at some point. Probably a dinosaur.
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This thread is very interesting. Instead of reading it, I'm going to masturbate to thoughts of lesbians
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>>100091668
I was under the impression that everyone knew that there is allways the same amount of water on the planet, the only thing that changes is its form.
So when you drink water from the spring, that water is 4 billion years old, and at some point was probably a T-rex's urine.
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>>100091676
You aren't answering the question. Me from tomorrow comes back and says "It's sunny a day from now."

A day later I decide to go back and say something else instead, so I go with "It's rainy a day from now." WHAT STOPS ME?
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>>100091708
I'm not all too sure. I zoned out of all this sciency shit when it turned into time travel discussion. I just find it weird that you wouldn't react strangely to time travelers, especially if that time traveler is you.
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I don't even
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>>100091790
I'm not including unnecessary details. Obviously we would have blown each other and such before discussing the lottery.
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>>100091788
The fact that it already happened. How else can I say this? You decided to say it's sunny. That's it. There aren't two separate instances of the event.
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>>100091569
Man I don't buy that

if Yukari can change her own destiny and not get married just for the sake of her family then it's only right that we follow her lead and believe in our own freewill too

>>100091747
Well there is still a Sakura Trick thread up

I'm kinda scared to ask what /yys/ thought of it and interrupt all this talk, I'll save it for next thread
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>>100091731
>Probably a dinosaur.

RADICAL.
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>>100091790
Not the same anon, but I actually have a lot of reasons to travel back in time and fix a lot of mistakes in my life, I have been expecting the me from the future to appear in front of me since I was 10 years old.
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>>100091869
>The fact that
That doesn't answer the question. Just saying "The universe won't let you" doesn't tell me what magic force is stopping me from saying a different phrase. Detail what stops me.
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>>100091986
What stops your post number from being something other than 100091986? The fact that it is 100091986. It's there. It IS. That's not a magical force, that's just the way things are. It happened. It's set in stone.

If anything, you're claiming that time travel or free will or something is magically allowing you to warp reality.
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>>100091964
Just promise yourself that if you EVER manage to time travel, the first time you time travel will be 5 minutes from now, then you simply wait and see.
If no future you appears in 5 minutes, you never will.
Big bang theory taught me that one
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I miss dithered, early 90's graphics.

It makes me think of a time when women had thick, full, unshaven bush. Playing games from that era make me feel like I'm back in those days where any woman's pantsu I could pull down, I could stick my face into a wonderful, thick, fragrant dark forest.

But really, it's more part of my smell fetish than anything...
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If I could travel back in time I'd go and rig everything to make myself as rich as possible and then fucking go and fund S2 myself
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>>100092088
But why cant he just travel back in time and wait 10 second with posting, then it wouldnt have happened, its not set in stone. The whole thing about time travel is that nothing is definate forever.
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>>100091901
I've honestly never seen a show with heavier lesbian romance than Yuru Yuri, so Sakura Trick is kind of interesting in that regard, but it comes off as trying a little too hard at times, in my opinion. Like its main focus is to get your dick hard rather than entertain you or tell you a story. Actually, that probably IS the case, what am I saying?

This part was just fucking insane though.

I'll keep watching it, but my suspension of disbelief has already been stretched very far and it's only one episode in. And I'm not nearly as invested in it as I have been with other shows in the past. The parts that seemed like they were trying to be funny didn't really capture me, and I don't really like any of the characters much besides Haruka. Right now I give it a 6/10, but it still has a lot of time to decide whether it wants to be a SoL, a comedy, or a softcore porno, and when it does, I think I'll have a more solid opinion of it.
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>>100092088
>It IS.
You're avoiding that my post number has actually happened. Events in my future are however still in my future. If I know via time travel shenanigans that I'll snap my fingers in five seconds, WHAT HAPPENS IF I DECIDE NOT TO? Put yourself in my shoes and tell me what stops me? I struggle not to, but the universe just grabs my hands and forces a snap against my will?
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>>100091901

Episode 1 was aight. I think it's cuter than it is hot. Honestly, the molestation in episode 1 of ImoCho did a lot more for my mushroom. Yuri physics made me lose it, though.
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>>100092195
But it is definite. See >>100091482. Your perspective is that events have yet to unfold, and that makes you think you can have an effect on them, but they have already happened. The outcome (and every step along the way) is definite, because it's in the past.
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>>100040085
I would Okaa-san so hard.
I would take her from behind, grope her tit and make her softly whisper lewd things with her delicious Yui Horie voice.
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>>100092214
>>100092250

Yuriphysicsmind. Also, yeah, I think you're right in that it's trying too hard, but that's to be expected from episode 1, I think. It was trying to hook viewers with all the kissing, obviously.
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>>100092110
Which doesn't actually prove anything, because no matter how much you promise yourself that you'll do it there is no way to rule out the possibility that something will change your mind about it later.
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W-w-woah man...
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>>100092214
>and I don't really like any of the characters much besides Haruka

They all seem nice enough to me, and I've heard everyone gets their time in the spotlight

And I swear I already love Yuzu not because of any bias to the name due of Yuyushiki, not in the slightest!
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>>100092238
>Events in my future are however still in my future.
YOUR future, but not THE future. When you travel back in time, your immediate future becomes the past, which already happened, and so is certain. No free will, remember.
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>>100092110
I know, I have tried that. But I didn't appeared ;_; So, I have the theory that if I ever manage to time travel, I will only do it once and it will be to fix a really bad fuck up in my life.
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>>100092398
You again didn't answer what stops me from deciding not to snap. Does the universe just grab my fingers and force one against my will, or doesn't it?
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>>100092403
But what if your future self, knowing full well the dangers of time travel, came back and already solved a major issue in your life that you'll never actually encounter or be aware of now?
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>>100091330
>>100091482
So, let's take something like the example from >>100091236, but more advanced and subtle.
Say, you have access to certain and detailed recording of some event. You travel back to that time and do something that would contradict the records. Like, appear on some unimportant party footage you clearly weren't at before you traveled in time. What happens?
And if your answer would be "you can't do it because it already didn't happen", then how would it be perceived by the time traveler? He comes to the door of the place where the party is going, puts his hand on the handle, and then what? He just freezes? Dies? Decides "ah, for some reason I don't wanna do it anymore, despite being so sure just a second ago"?
The "future already happened" logic was possible in 12 Monkeys only because it took place in a post-apocalyptic world that had almost no records about the past.
And the Terminator is a wrong example. Even in the third one the future still can be changed, the only problem is that it will still gravitate towards certain events.
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>>100092470
Whoops, forgot to add 'without you actually knowing that they did it'
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>>100092117
It's not really a smell fetish for me, but all a part of this fascination I have with girls being ordinary human beings and NOT perfect supermodels that are often put on a pedestal as the definition of sexy by this culture's standards. I prefer cuteness and down-to-earth-ness in a girl over impeccable beauty any day. I like imagining that girls deal with the same kind of shit that guys do, like body hair, gas, waste, etc. Even though it's not the smell of those things that gets me excited, but the fact that girls are human too. It's kind of hard to explain. I guess it just makes me feel more relatable to a girl that way, I dunno.
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>>100092470
That's a possibility, but I don't really see the issue with he telling me, I already said I wouldn't be surprised to see him.
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>>100092442
No, 'deciding' doesn't enter into it. 'You' are just a bag of saltwater that follows physical stimuli. There's no magical little dude in a cockpit making 'decisions'.

If it helps, imagine this situation with robots or rocks or something. Then remind yourself that humans aren't a special case.
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What the fuck happened here? I go shopping come back and the threads devolved into quantum physics and time travel 101.
Nice.

You now realize that the universe (or multiverse if you want to go down that track), being infinite; means that there is a planet/universe where your waifu exists, hundreds of them in fact, and some where you both exist at the same time and have fallen in love with each other.
You have already married your waifu IN REALITY.
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>>100092385
Yeah, they're all NICE, but they haven't really done anything notable that makes me appreciate them yet.

And yeah, it's pretty strange hearing "Yuzu-chan!" from a non-yuyu's mouth. Makes me a bit nostalgic.
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>>100092523
Again, this talk of human-mind-level 'decisions' is silly. See >>100092571.
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>>100092571
What the hell passes through my mind when I'm told via time travel that I'll snap in five minutes? You've dodged like ten times now. See this guy for a similar case >>100092523
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>>100092691
>when I'm told via time travel that I'll snap in five minutes?
Well now that's a different case entirely. The dude from the future could be lying. You could snap, or not snap.
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>>100092535
And I'm also realizing that, with the last thread we had and how we talked about the way the yuyus pee a lot and aren't reserved or anything, that might be a part of why I feel such a strong connection to them. It feels as if the yuyus have opened up and shown me their true selves, instead of wearing some facade of beauty like most "bitches" you meet in public will put on.

>>100092729
Yeah, that too.
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>>100092599
It's ironic that that Yuzu is the only straight character in the show.

>>100092214
>Haruka
I like Yuu-chan a lot more, she's really lewd despite she can't admit it herself, and she reminds me of another certain Yuu-chan.
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>>100092746
Told via time travel, not time-traveller. I look through a crystal ball that tells the future or something. It's no different for the thought experiment.

It's the same case as having me appear and say it's sunny tomorrow. I might as well have looked into a crystal ball that said "You will go to the past and tell yourself it's sunny." That's apparently set in stone for me.

And again, what stops me from deciding against doing the act?
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>>100092599
Yeah fair enough. I read ahead a little in the manga and they do develop their own personalities pretty quickly so it shouldn't be a slog to get to something interesting
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>>100092535

So... gap moe. Gotcha.

If I particularly like the smell of feet, then so did one of the creators of this simulation? Fuckin' weirdo.
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I usually take more towards the gushy and kind characters more, so that's just me. They make me happy inside. Like Megumi. She's just a big ball of kindness and I love her.
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>>100092843
By observing a point in the future, you have essentially time-travelled to the future, then; and you're right, it pretty much the same thing.

Whatever is the latest point on the timeline you've been, everything up to that has already happened, because you've seen it happen (indirectly, but certainly). It doesn't matter what 'goes through your head', the fact is that you've already 'decided' to do whatever you did, or else the rest of these events wouldn't have happened.
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>>100092803

>And I'm also realizing that, with the last thread we had and how we talked about the way the yuyus pee a lot and aren't reserved or anything, that might be a part of why I feel such a strong connection to them.

Are you watching Seitokai Yakuindomo? 'Cos Shino and Aria are way less reserved than even the Yuyus.

Speaking of, what's /yys/'s favorite anime so far this early season? SYD never fails to get a few hearty laughs out of me every episode; despite most of it being cheap sex jokes, a few of them per episode really hit nonetheless.
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>>100092523
Terminator is basically like Steins;Gate in relation to the timetravel.
They're just stuck on the same kind of world line (i.e 0.something rather than 1+) and never make a huge enough impact to completely change lines.
Also if they had just let arnie live in terminator 2 and shown him to the government they could have stopped it all by having him explain what was going to happen with skynet. They would have put more restrictions on a.i than you could imagine.
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>>100092936

A: Tsumugi Kotobuki is a miracle of the universe;
B: She'd be awesome with the Yuyus, wouldn't she?
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For our next act, Yukari will rob a bank.
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>>100092874
It might be a certain kind of gap-moe. The first time I even heard that term was from Noucome, used to describe Yukihira, who turned out to be my favorite girl, so you might be onto something. But according to that, it seemed like "gap-moe" meant when a girl is so seemingly rooted in a particular archetype, that when she acts drastically different, it's cute. The thing is that I straight up don't find "perfection" in itself to be appealing. I don't look for that entire gap, but merely one extreme end of that gap.
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>>100092973
SYD is good, but I'm also really excited for MikaShin, which looks like the /yys/-est thing airing this season.

Wizard Barristers could also be great; can't wait for it to air.
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>>100092962
>or else the rest of these events wouldn't have happened
Which is why there's a paradox.

>It doesn't matter what 'goes through your head'
So you can't detail why I would necessarily and suddenly change my mind about testing a time travel paradox? Alright.
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>>100092973
Yeah of course I love SYD as always, I brought up Sakura Trick before because I really like it too, and also Seki-kun and Pupipo are some great shorts I'm scared of subs for the latter because it looks like the nice times are over already
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>>100093137

Gap moe simply refers to a gap between expectations and reality.
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>>100093163

Yeah, MikaShin was the other anime whose first episode showed a lot of promise to me as well.
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>>100093165
>So you can't detail why I would necessarily and suddenly change my mind about testing a time travel paradox?
Because it would create a paradox. And paradoxes, by their nature, can't exist outside of thought experiments. Hence,
>Fixed Timeline is the only option that's not nonsensical or magic.
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>/YYS/ - The Universe, existentialism and time travel
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>>100092571
>>100092672
Until we have a full detailed model of the brain and its functioning, there is no proof that human actions are completely deterministic.
Stop talking about it like it's an undeniable fact.
>>100092979
> Terminator is basically like Steins;Gate in relation to the timetravel.
Yeah, exactly.
>>100092866
How much of the manga does the anime cover? And what chapter does volume 5 ends at? I want to download raws for the rest of it, because I'm afraid the links will die before I get to them.
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>>100092973
Oddly enough, I have a story about SYD.
>Watched the first season like 3 years ago and loved it
>Only learned about S2 like a month ago
>Decide to watch it, since I liked S1 so much
>Decide to watch the OVAs to prepare for it
>Completely bored with the structure of the show and how literally everything is a set up for a sex-related punchline
>Drop the OVAs and decide not to watch S2

I like the characters in SYD, though, I really do, just that I don't like being bombarded by sex jokes constantly. Yuyushiki had its share of lewdness, but it was distributed across the show in a natural way, and they talked about a bunch of normal stuff, too. I guess SYD is unrealistic to me in the complete opposite direction of what I consider ideal.
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>>100093137

I think part of it might be that there's a certain intimacy implied with, for example, a woman sharing things with you she doesn't share with everyone.
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>>100093248
>Because it would create a paradox.
That's what I said. It's called the grandfather paradox and I'm asking how you stop it. You've refused through this whole comment chain to even attempt detailing what would go through my head.

Me, who is determined to *not* do the thing I'm fated by time travel to do, like snapping my fingers in five seconds. Tell me what I think that makes me suddenly change my entire worldview and snap?
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>>100092973
>>100093354
Oh, and so far I really like Seki-kun and Hamatora. Really looking forward to more of those. I also wanna read the Seki-kun manga, but I keep getting side tracked.
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>>100093295
>How much of the manga does the anime cover?

Technically they got 3 chapters into the first episodes because it included the little introduction chapter before the OP, but it'll probably be only 2 an episode for the rest of it

Not actually sure about volume numbers or anything, I only read the translated chapters so far
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>>100093295
>there is no proof that human actions are completely deterministic.
Brains are made of ordinary matter. Ordinary matter behaves in a deterministic way. Unless you're talking about quantum effects, in which case, they're random, but that's still not 'free will'. The very concept of 'free will' is magic.

>>100093398
Paradoxes don't exist in real life. Your perceived thoughts are irrelevant.
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>>100093267

>/YYS/ - The Universe, existentialism, time travel and pubic hair
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>>100093528
If it's irrelevant why are you so afraid to address it?
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>>100093544
>/YYS/ - The Universe, existentialism, time travel, pubic hair, and Sakura Trick
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>>100093528
>Paradoxes don't exist in real life.

Jayden smith would like to have a word with you
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>>100093580
I addressed it by saying it doesn't matter, because it doesn't. Like I said, imagine the scenario with rocks. Rocks don't have thoughts. Neither do you, in any way that's meaningful to anything but your own mind at any given moment. 'Thoughts' don't affect the scenario form an outside perspective. You could be 'thinking' anything.

You're putting a very human gloss on this whole problem for no reason.
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I can unfortunately and confidently say that nothing this season is going to even come close to approaching YYS, let alone NNB.
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>>100093665
So wise
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>>100046778
shiiiiiiiet
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>>100093665
I dont get this..
Is Jaden Smith smarter than me?
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>>100093714
>imagine the scenario with rocks

Okay. My future self affects my actions based on the very fact that it appears. My future self showing up and saying "it's sunny tomorrow" and then vanishing makes it such that me (who out of curiosity is determined NOT to do what time travel appears to dictate of me) saying that in the future is made impossible.

This is like if a rock appears from five minutes in the future and ten feet above its past self. It falls down and they both crack into pieces. The future one interacted with the past one in such a way that rendered the past one later traveling to the future impossible.
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>>100093743
When's the next "moeshit" anime?
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>>100040024
My man.
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>>100046778

OTP

Yuzu and Yuuko Aioi should just form a "being us is suffering club" already.
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>>100093826
>It falls down and they both crack into pieces.
But it didn't, because it was still in one piece to travel back in time. That didn't happen. It already didn't happen. It 100% certainly didn't happen. That would be a paradox, and those don't exist in real life.

You're purposely setting up the scenario with a paradox already baked in. That can't happen in real life.
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>>100093793
You have much to learn from Jaden-sama.
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>>100093828

I don't see one here: http://anichart.net/spring

That's OK though. Mushishi will be AOTY next season.
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>>100093972
>>100093828

Also, Sakura Trick is "moeshit" with kissing.
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>>100093972
Is there even anything during Spring worth watching, besides JoJo? I haven't examined everything yet, but at a glance it looks terrible.
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>>100093942
>But it didn't
Though that's EXACTLY the same as me witnessing my future state. The mere act of me viewing it makes it impossible to occur because I'll say "Fuck fate" and do something different.

It interacted with me in a way that defeated its own existence.
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Congratulations on the bump limit fellow Yuyus and Luckies

Before we slowly fade into oblivion I wish I thank you for a highly enjoyable thread
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>>100094054
>because I'll say "Fuck fate" and do something different.
You didn't, though.
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>>100093902
I'd have been more thorough about this if we weren't 10 images away from maximum and currently past bump limit. Remind me to do it again properly some time.
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>>100094068
Fuck this must have been one of our fastest threads in a while, and I didn't even have to empty image bump a single time

Good work everyone
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>>100094159
It was John Titor's doing.
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>>100094152
I'll try to keep it in mind so I can remind you. But nice, regardless
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>>100094149
You have yet to say what stops me from not snapping when the future says I will. Does the universe just grab me by the hand and force a snap without my consent? You've refused to even touch this point well over a dozen times.
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>>100094033

>but at a glance it looks terrible.

It does, aside from Mushishi. I'm hoping more shows are announced.

>>100094068

Must not think about how Konata's socks smell...
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>>100094068
Don't try to deny it, this thread was much more yuyu. There were like 3 Lucky Star posters at the most.

Nah but really it's been swell. Minus that whole argument part, of course.

>>100094159
Thank you, off-topic science, time travel, and paranormal activity!
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>>100094209
I said in the very beginning, it's not 'fate' or anything stupid like that. I don't know why you keep coming back to it. Whatever you 'think' is irrelevant; you're not making 'decisions' that can affect events in the past. The ability to time travel doesn't grant you power to change events, only to observe them differently.

I don't know why you 'chose' not to snap, on a human level. It could have been anything. But on a physical level, it was because the particles in your brain and body didn't move that way, because the necessary stimulus wasn't there.
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However we'll have Is the Order a Rabbit? this Spring. It runs in the same magazine that hosts Hidamari, YYS and Kiniro. It walks amongst giants; it is worthy.

In fact, being a SoL about a high school girl who lives and works at a cafe, being about her and her cute friends / daily cafe patrons, it sounds spectacular.
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>>100094291
Hey I went on Wikipedia just to double check some facts, therefore it was all entirely relevant to Yuyushiki
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>>100094054
>>100094149
You two are basically arguing past each other.

If free will exists, and time travel within a linear timeline also exists, then paradox should be possible if someone were to decide to create one. By saying paradox is impossible, you deny free will.

Now, denying free will isn't necessarily WRONG, it's just that if we were to ever encounter scientific proof that everything is predetermined and our free will is just an illusion that kinda shits all over the human sense of self, so we tend to disregard that interpretation.
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>>100094326
Dodged again. Me merely VIEWING my future self renders it impossible because I'll just do something different. It's the same case as a rock falling from the future and crushing itself.

The future interacts with the past in such a way that prevents it from occurring. It's the exact same paradox.
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>>100094345
Jesus fuck my heart already hurts just looking at that picture. Added to the list then
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>>100094345
Sounds neat. I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.
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>>100094392
This isn't a question of free will. It's just the grandfather paradox. It works even with non-thinking rocks.
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>>100094407
I didn't dodge at all.
>I'll just do something different.
You didn't, though.

Free will doesn't exist. Paradoxes can't exist. You're not special.
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>>100094345
Oh shit Risa Taneda is doing a part in it too. Super hyped
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>>100094345

FUCK YEAR, MOESHIT! That makes me happy.
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Here's another interesting thought. I remember reading that there is a maximum number of possible atom arrangements that you consist of. Something like 10^150 possible combinations. The universe is estimated to have 10^80 atoms right now. Statistically speaking, there is a chance that there is an exact copy of you out in space. Even less for just a human.
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>>100094345
>Tedeza, Rize - Taneda, Risa

HYPE
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>>100094457
>You didn't, though.
Have you not been paying attention? I don't know how to say it any clearer. I agree there's a paradox: in linear time the future can't interact with the past in such a way that prevents that scenario from happening. You've failed to detail any distinction between the rock example and the one with people. Me merely SEEING my future state is the same as the rock crushing itself.
It's not a question of free will. >>100094453
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>>100094559
Ah yes, the good old hypothesis that there exist 'parallel worlds' in the very same universe, separated by great distance. I don't know much about this topic, but it always sounded kind of ridiculous to me.
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>>100094559
It's too late in the thread for "another interesting thought," anon. Just let these time travel fuckers squabble at each other until we fall off Page 10. The rest of us can be happy and discuss cute lolis working in cafes.
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>>100094559
T-thats kinda cool
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>>100094621
>You've failed to detail any distinction between the rock example and the one with people.
There is no distinction. So, unless you bake a paradox into the problem to start with (thus, not making a realistic problem), there's no problem.
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>>100094559

If you fuck your exact copy, is it gay or narcissistic?
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>>100094720
You agreed the rocks were a paradox. Now, what if I see my future state? That is, in exactly the same way, an interaction from the future that stops itself from happening. Am I getting trolled right now?
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>>100094740
Gay and a selfcest.
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A screencap from the episode I've been trying to watch for about an hour now but have been unsuccessful due to this rapidly moving thread.

Enjoy the rest of your night/morning, yuyufriends.
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>>100094778
Yes, that would be a paradox. Because in presenting this problem, you're asserting that the paradox has already occurred. But, given any starting conditions possible in real life, the scenario could not reach a point where a paradox occurs. You're starting from a point that's already impossible except in a thought experiment.
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>>100094068
Yeah this thread was fucking good.
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>>100094920
I was gonna go to bed at like 0600 am, now its freaking 10am. God damn quantum physics man..
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>>100095045
Well you could just go back in time and sleep at 6am, you'll be fine
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>>100094885
>you're asserting that the paradox has already occurred
Time travel in linear time ITSELF creates the paradox. The future CAN'T interact with the past in such a way that would stop the scenario from happening.

The mere act of me seeing a future state would cause me to stop it, exactly the same as the rock crushing itself.
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>>100095045

I was going to watch ImoCho like 4 hours ago, but /yys/ keeps me on /a/ like no other bunch of wonderful, lovable people. No homo.
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>>100094483
Picked all the way up


Anyway, this is about as late as possible to get into the YS thread, but it's all good.
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>>100095113
>No homo

Do you realize where you are right now? I'm homo for you, anon.
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>>100095084
>The future CAN'T interact with the past in such a way that would stop the scenario from happening.
I'm glad you finally understand this.
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>>100095045
I managed to sleep and come back right before the discussion about simulated reality started.
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>>100095190
I've been saying it the whole thread. What you've failed to address is the fact that merely seeing a future state you can influence creates the exact same paradox.
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>>100095193
>the discussion about simulated reality
Oh god, not this again. Was it a Hidamari thread where I tried to explain that it doesn't rain in a weather simulation?
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>>100095190
Meaning it's literally impossible for time travelers to do shit like talk to themselves. >>100091547
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>>100095293
Nope. Your personal timeline isn't the only one.

Better luck next time.
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>>100095356
> it doesn't rain in a weather simulation?
What? Is it something like >>100093665 ?
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>>100095356
But it does rain in a simulation that replicates every molecule of a rocky, watery planet near a sun.
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>>100095356
>I tried to explain that it doesn't rain in a weather simulation
EXPLAIN FURTHER
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>>100095439
He doesn't understand the simulation hypothesis, I'm guessing.

He probably thinks that it's equivalent to saying that every time you do a calculation, you're creating a universe where that scenario exists, but he's wrong.
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>>100095432
Yes, if the simulation is the creation of an exact molecular replica then that is true.

>>100095439
A simulation is usually a bunch of numbers and equations which represent the phenomenon in question. There's no water in it.

People don't seem to understand this.
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>>100095379
What the fuck are you talking about? Is this what it's come to?
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>>100095519
>A simulation is usually a bunch of numbers and equations which represent the phenomenon in question. There's no water in it.
Duuuuude...
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>>100095519
If our universe is a simulation, it's by beings vastly more powerful and knowledgeable than us, within a universe significantly more complex. They're not necessarily using calculations to model us. We could be a physical model to them. It's beyond our ken.
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>>100095379
So time travelers can talk to themselves, EXCEPT people who would do something even slightly different?
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>>100095604

What if our creators peed in a butt and pooped out our physical model?
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>>100095626
No, this guy's assertion that you can 'decide to do something different' is ludicrous. He's insisting that humans are special paradox-making machines. You can talk to yourself, no problem, it would just be weird because the later you would know everything that was said.
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>>100095654
So we're made by mud.
The jews were right.
Fuck.
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>>100095684
But what would be the experience of going back and saying it?

I guess it would just feel natural, since whatever you say is what was said.
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>>100095684
>You can talk to yourself
Except people who would do something different.

Humans ARE paradox-making machines. If I saw my future self snapping I'd decide to try not doing it. No matter WHAT I saw, I'd try something different. The mere act of seeing my own state in the future is an interaction that creates a paradox just like the rock that crushes its past self.

Is it just that people like me aren't allowed to time travel since the universe knows I'd break shit?
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>>100095750
Yes, that would make the most sense, but it's certainly difficult to imagine.

Of course, it's not an experience anyone will ever have, so it's nothing to worry too much about.
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>>100095519
> A simulation is usually a bunch of numbers and equations which represent the phenomenon in question. There's no water in it.
There is no water in it for YOU, someone outside the simulation.
If you add structures that are designed and programmed to function like living creatures in it, using that bunch of numbers as their sensory input, then it will rain for them and the water will be quite "real".
The same applies for us - all our perception of "reality" is basically just a bunch of signals picked up by our nervous system.
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>>100095379
>Your personal timeline isn't the only one.

At which point we've drifted firmly into multiple branching timelines, at which point him deciding to do something different doesn't violate any rules because by definition any "time travel" would simply be traveling from your native timeline to a near-identical one, so the past-him doing something different from the future-him wouldn't matter since they're from different (albeit 99.9999% similar) timelines.
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>>100095789
>No matter WHAT I saw, I'd try something different.
That's easy for you to say, but the physical fact of the mater is that you wouldn't. Sorry; you're not special.
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>>100095889
>you wouldn't
What stops me? A process you've failed to address twenty times now.
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>>100095866
That's not what 'timeline' means in this context. I meant, how he sees events from his point of view (1,3,2) as opposed to how events absolutely are (1,2,3).

The kind of multiple timelines / parallel universes shit you're talking about is magic.
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>>100095924
Causality. Cause-and-effect.
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>>100095974
Then there's a thought process causing me to decide to snap. Tell me what stops me, who is totally against this idea of snapping my fingers in five seconds, from entirely changing my worldview and deciding in favor of it? Go through my stream of consciousness.
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>>100095974
The simple existence of time travel within a linear timeline throws cause-and-effect out the fucking window unless there is some effect that acts as a time-cop and prevents anything from causing paradox.

And no, saying "it just can't happen" isn't good enough. Just because it hasn't happened that we know of doesn't mean it can't.
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>>100095833
>If you add structures that are designed and programmed to function like living creatures in it, using that bunch of numbers as their sensory input, then it will rain for them and the water will be quite "real".
Sure. This seems to all be getting back to ye olde brain in a jar. But it may be possible to write a sentient program which interacts with a "driver" environment. The question is what happens if it can reprogram itself...

>>100095826
Yeah. Well, >>100095789 seems to be concerned about the experience going forward. But I think you're right about the paradox.

>>100095924
If you did something different the input the earlier you got would be different, so you'd try something different. This would be a feedback loop that takes place in some sort of extra-temporal fashion, until you have an "internally" consistent course of action and the paradox is resolved.

But it will only appear to be a choice of the consistent action, since [character limit]
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>>100096041
I don't know what your thought process is. It doesn't matter. Whatever it is, you're just watching events that have already happened, happen again. For whatever reason (well, actually because of the effect of all the particles in the universe on the particles in you body), you decided to snap your fingers. That's it. That's all there is to it.
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>>100096116
>It doesn't matter.
It's the entire problem. Knowledge of my future INTERACTS with me, right now, and causes me to alter my behavior.

It's the exact same way a rock from the future falling and crushing its past self INTERACTS in such a way that stops the event from being possible.
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>>100096116
I should add: the circumstances will never change. If you did something once, that's all that ever happened, and no matter how many times you experience it, everything is exactly the same.
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>>100096153
>>100096116
Guys, I explained it
>>100096072
>If you did something different the input the earlier you got would be different, so you'd try something different. This would be a feedback loop that takes place in some sort of extra-temporal fashion, until you have an "internally" consistent course of action and the paradox is resolved.
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>But it will only appear to be a choice of the consistent action, since all the "looping" occurred "outside" of the timeline
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>>100096153
>It's the entire problem
The entire problem is that you think your thought or consciousness somehow matters.

>>100096216
Well, this is basically magic, but if it makes you feel better, sure. Why not?
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>>100096241
>this is basically magic
Not really, it's just extrapolation.

I mean, you can say you're going to try to do something different, but over infinite re-do's you're going to accidentally do what you were trying not to. It'll be most uncanny and depressing.
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>>100096241
Thought is the interaction process. Photons hit my eyes and my brain makes a decision about what to do (even a purely cause-and-effect one). The wiring of my brain and the nature of the interaction causes me to perform a different action, meaning the original scenario doesn't happen.

This is just as one rock hitting the other is their interaction that stops the past one from later being able to travel at all.
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>>100096337
Again, you're setting it up where a paradox is already happening, but you can't actually get to there from any starting point in the real world.

>>100096313
Yes, it is magic. That's like 'fate'. You can simply never do anything different than what you already did. It's a physical contradiction and impossibility.
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Well, uh, until next time, /yys/. 'Night.
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>>100096403
>you're setting it up where a paradox is already happening
The paradox is that people who would do something differently would ever be able to talk to themselves from a different point in time.
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>>100096468
I think I'm out, as well.

Good luck in the 5th dimension.
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>>100096072
> This seems to all be getting back to ye olde brain in a jar.
Yes, exactly. That's what we talking about when we say "simulated reality", except we usually assume that there is no physical brain and our thought process is, very roughly speaking, a computer program. Care to explain your rain argument again? I don't see how it makes sense if you already know what I said.
> But it may be possible to write a sentient program which interacts with a "driver" environment. The question is what happens if it can reprogram itself...
Well, programs can't do it on their own unless the creators deliberately give them such function.
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>>100096501
The paradox is that I've spent all this time replying to some fucking monkey banging on a keyboard. Who's gone now. I guess I was trolled by a super special snowflake. Go, me.

Yes I know that's not a paradox and that moneys banging on keyboards can't actually write anything.
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>>100096630
It's OK anon, I'd post a picture of Fumi except image limit. ;_;
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>>100096630
Nah, it's that anyone who would do something even slightly different can't get any knowledge of their future state.

Meaning everyone.
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>>100096468
>>100096519
Post bump limit Yuyu threads are always a strange place
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>>100096727
It's perfectly fitting though. Yuyushikis are genuinely weird girls (well, everyone besides Yui) who go off on epically (for lack of a better word) off-topic discussions, so the threads end up likewise.



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