The more I watch the less I understand.
I just finished episode 10. Please tell me the ride has almost reached its end, will something make sense soon?
Yeah, what was with him? What was the library scene about? What is the significants of the bugs, and those two idols? Apples? What is the survival strategy?
>will something make sense soon?
It will never make sense.
Do you like utena? If not, your best bet is to drop it.
I dropped it at 20, take it as you will.
The Penguindrum is a plum-colored washing machine.
Himari's soulmate is Mario-san.
Momoka is alive.
Shouma is gay.
Yuri Bear PV when?
>What is the significants of the bugs
Shouma is a moralfag.
>and those two idols?
Himari's former friends
>Apples? What is the survival strategy?
You'll find out later.
It's best you just leave and keep watching because you're just begging for spoilers.
This. Some people have apparently figured it out, but honestly, I think it's all guesswork. The show doesn't make sense, and never will.
I always see people comparing the two, why?
I'm on episode 11.
Did the frog sweat just actually work?
No Tabuki was faking
Are you implying that a character played by Ishida Akira might not be totally on the level?
Finishes episode 11. I can't this show. I need to know what happens, but things are just becoming more twisted.
I though the same with utena and in the end it was just >hurr symbols XDD
The show is 2deep4 everyone. The writer just tried to make it so fucking complex to the point where its just impossible to follow.
All ya gotta know is its just symbolism and some metaphor about an apple being life and splitting pieces meant saving someone.
>>hurr symbols XDD
No, Utena more or less makes sense in the end, if you don't focus too much on the mechanics of the magical stuff. Penguindrum does not really make sense.
Yep, and it was done in the most obnoxious and inane way out of everything I watched.
Elaborate. I made a thread and no one answered.
the gist of it is that you have to choose to leave your coffin on your own. someone else can help you, like Utena did for Anthy, but she walked out of Ohtori by herself, and she had the power to do so all along. and the "power of miracles" was always out of reach; Akio himself makes the same error in chasing it that he mocks Utena for when he pointed out that the castle in the sky is just an illusion. he's just a manchild playing games.
Okay, how does the rose symbol relate to the theme?
The rose is just a flower. There are tons of roses everywhere, and they represent Anthy, Akio, and all of the main cast, but there's nothing *deep* about the roses. I think.
In other words, pretentious.
To the point of parody. It's just part of the animation style and invokes Rose of Versailles, which was a major inspiration for Utena.
Episode 12 done.
That fucking faggot librarian.
Hey fuck you I did answer.
He first appeared as a librarian, but that isn't his main role.
Sanetoshi is heavily reminiscent of two characters in Utena, namely Mikage and Akio.
>having pretty roses everywhere is pretentious
I'm talking about this.
What about it?
It spins and obstructs everything. They're too lazy to even try to make it fit with the context. It just appears randomly and spins in the foreground above everything.
It's symbolism for the character it represents. The white rose is for Dios and Akio.
What exactly is the point of that? Are the rose colors supposed to correspond with the charactes' roles or something?
It's quirky and surreal. Like the baseball game in the Student Council room, or Nanami asking Miki what the hell is up with him timing everything.
It's supposed to represent that Akio / Dios are moving pieces.
There has been a great deal of speculation on what is Miki measuring with his chronometer.
The best guess / consensus is that he measures emotions.
I've heard it has something to do with directing, like, indicating a shift in the scene or something.
Ikuhara has a thing for pink haired sexy villains, doesn't he?
This is probably one of the very few series where I literally cannot make sense of the overall plot.
Read Night on the Galactic Railroad if you haven't. After that, Penguindrum makes a little more sense.
This. I don't understand what everyone's problem is. The story certainly does make sense, you only have to think about it for a little bit.
it gets even worse in the 2nd half. I'd say just drop it early to be completely honest.
Night on the Galactic Railroad, the kids movie no kid will ever like.
keep watching. If you pay attention, you'll start to understand all the symbolism and metaphors. Shit will get grim dark. I didn't find the ending satisfactory, but the entire thing was a well done subversive work
don't watch the movie, read the book. they turned the boys into cats for absolutely no reason.
I haven't watched it, well, because of cats. The story was depressing, why would they adapt such a story with cats as characters? I just don't see it working well. Maybe I should try watching the movie sometime.
it was all about everyone's greed. the boys wanted to keep each other alive, so they kept splitting the apple given to kanba by fate, dooming them for breaking the rules. besides that, death chases them for their parent's sins. however, ringo also manifests greed with the man, but then makes a change of heart, changing fate to save all four of them while paying the price.
You don't need to understand anything, you just need to listen to this on loop
That Child Broiler is still so depressing. Like why would that need to exist, all children should be loved by their parents.
I read the book first, but I still thought the movie was excellent. It's slow paced and does a great job of building up the atmosphere.
At the risk of sounding like a cornball: you have to understand it with your heart, not your head. It's really quite simple.
I loved the story, so if the movie didn't butchered it, I'll probably like it. I'll give it a try then.