Hey guys, just finished HF here.
Can we have a F/SN thread?
Also Sakura was best girl
Your opinion is wrong.
But Tohsaka was best girl and waifu. I'm confused.
Oh well. How was your experience of it? Thoughts on the main four characters and the Archers?
I want those lewd thighs.
Well, i liked Tohsaka a lot too, almost as much as Sakura.
This was my first VN, it wasn't boring at all, liked it a lot, altough i like nasuverse a lot.
I liked the third route most of all, altough i'd say that it gets pretty boring sometimes as they are always inside Emiya's house. The fights were fucking awesome. And mostly, Shirou isn't a bitch, he's pretty badass here, i hope this route gets adapted.
And well, Archer is awesome, kinda OP if u think that he could do stuff Shirou was doing without getting tired if he had a good master.
(He always had shitty conditions)
No,sakura is just a sluty girl
Nah, she's not.
Well, she does want the D and got raped by both worms and blades, but she isn't.
If we're talking about servants that were just given bad positions throughout the visual novel...
Lancer. His original master gets killed before he's even introduced to this story with regularity. He ends up with Kotomine, who consistently goes his Lawful Neutral alignment. His death is always particularly unpleasant for him. His blue suit doesn't leave much to the imagination. And nobody off of the British Isles would understand who he is.
I was always wondering, people say Lancer goes through this kind of shit cause he's got E luck.
But Archer also had E luck, wait, nevermind, he also went through shit (Master didnt wanted to summon Saber and got him instead, gets killed by Berserker in Fate after fighting him wounded, doesn't have a proper master in UBW , and he fights at 10% in his most important fight, and gets fucked by the shadow in HF)
A few more years guys!
Good taste, OP.
>implying not rin
So why do people not start playing it?
Can't you play the 99.3% that's been translated and play the other 0.7% when it comes out?
Also, is F/HA good? i've downloaded it and could start playing it after i get the other ending of HF (which might happen tomorrow as that will last maybe 20minutes as much)
>Can't you play the 99.3% that's been translated and play the other 0.7% when it comes out?
No, because only about 70% of it has been edited and the last official patch was just for 50% of the game.
Great taste OP. I liked HF for the sole fact that Shirou had to put his save everyone mentality behind him and fight for the one he loved.
I liked HF the most because it takes what you've learned in the previous routes and just turns the entire scenario on it's head.
Its the scenario that's the most hopeless, the one that breaks the formula the most, and perhaps the most powerful in the end whether you like it or hate it.
Dunno why everyone here says he betrayed his ideal, he always said a hero chooses who he will save and who he won't, he repeats that shit during all fucking Fate route. Plus in the end he saved Sakura , Rin, and basically everyone because he didn't let Angra Manyu to be born, so he became a superhero in the end of this route
> Not having The King of Knights as your waifu
>not having Kotomine as you're waifu
Sakura is always Best Girl and her route is always the superior one.
He was always my second pick
BB best Sakura.
>Not having Issei as your waifu
>mfw I'm replaying FSN but skipping UBW because I don't want to have to go through Rin again
This guy gets it
The best parts of UBW are the ones with Archer anyways
Can't be help.
Rin was the most boring character-wise.
Must agree with that, her backstory is shit
He becomes Archer after the events of HF, right? It's been a long time since I've read F/SN.
> The King
> The Tsundere
> The Slut
> Picks the slut
Have people no standard anymore?
>you will never punish BB
He doesn't become Archer in Any of the routes we have seen.
>The Best Girl
fixed for accuracy
Really? Does it say when and how he became Archer? I thought it was implied in HF towards the end, but like I said, my memory's kinda fuzzy.
I didn't know Gilgamesh was a heroine.
This thread is full of worms
Nasu stated the chances of Shirou becoming Archer in the 3 routes we have, is Very low.
So is Sakura
No, the events of HF have like a 0% chance of resulting in Archer.
>The first person I thought of is Gil and not Seibah
What have you done with me
But he didn't pick Gilgamesh.
You're the greatest, OP.
Today you weren't a faggot
Nope, I'm the one calling Saber best girl. Get some evidence before you accuse someone.
well there wasn't really much backstory compared to the others
She looked up to her father, she aspired to be a magus, and while her training was tough in some ways that's all there really was to it. Aside from her mother going brain dead and being visited by Kotomine at times there's not really a deep story there. It's just kind of like life in that there's no special meaning. Compared to everyone else at least in the story who were kind of shaped by their pasts or have some horrific trauma or event that defines them.
And that makes her a kinda boring character
Because Gilgamesh is the King, the rest are mere Knaves.
> Iskandar isn't the true king
Gil a shit
Anon I agree with you[\spoiler]
if he's so great, how come Saber slew his dumb ass?
>You'll never get to save BB and live with her in the real world
That's exactly what he's saying.
Because PLOT ARMOR
>implying the opinion of Mongrels matter
Because Saber has Plot armor in the form of Avalon.
That "punishment" made me uncomfortable.
stop this shit. Gil was a beta faggot who put Saber on a pedastal (when she was fucking with Shirou on the side) and waited 10 years for her, only to have her kill the shit out of him
Gil = /r9k/
I dont know who pic related is tho, she's not Sakura
Some forth wall breaking, and a trusted sempai breaking the haughty BB until she went fully dere were involved.
that anon is right, Gil is pretty beta...
But Gil, you are an imitation. You're just a copy of the actual heroic spirit stored in the Throne of Heroes.
It works better if you name it "Archer.jpg"
Also he's a fake compared to the original god of creation which all gods sprang from in CCC.
well shit...you sure?
who is this bitch?
I'd still take Gil over Saber any day.
I'm not sure what that guy's going on about, but it's definitely Sakura. You can check the pixiv tags on that image yourself if you don't believe it.
>mfw I realized that HF is the canon route
best girl man
Archer's rank E luck is actually turned into a strength because of his Eye of the Mind (True), in battle at least.
He does die in every route, and he completely fails in his mission to murder Shirou in the one route he actually has a chance to. Hell, there isn't even a possible bad end in that scene, meaning there was next to NO WAY Archer could have won that fight.
Best scene. Can't wait till it is animated.
assuming they don't fuck it up like kirei vs kiritsugu
A) MC is a better master than Rin by the end of CCC
B) Better overall compatibility with MC accounts for a slight stat increase
C) Being a true Heroic Spirit that represents all Nameless Heroes now gives him a slight boost
D) Nasu just changed it because it makes more sense for Archer to be fighting gods with D rank luck instead.
Pick one if you want, or don't
E) The Moon Cell grail war is not exactly the same as the Fuyuki grail war and you can't draw any meaningful conclusions from Servant stat differences from one system to the other.
Just think about this, guys.
When looking back at all the major Fate/Stay Night characters...
which one was the most Tohsaka?
Yeah, they ache. Aching for some dick, the sluts.
Check out Saber's stat differences between four different masters. It's not that the Mooncell is that different, rather the same servant under a different master will always shine differently.
So Statistically Herc is the strongest servant?
Aside from BB(Who it's hard to tell if she really counts in some ways), yes, Herc seems to have the highest stat base over all.
Not that I really counted them out here or factored in multipliers. It's pretty much why he's the Worf of Fate though.
But...he wasn't a major character in Fate/Stay Night...He had a larger role in Zero, but...
That doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Comparing differences in stats from Master to Master in the same system is one thing. Comparing a Moon Cell Servant to a Fuyuki war Servant is another entirely. The Moon Cell war is based on the Fuyuki system, but a lot of aspects are tweaked or changed altogether. It's entirely possible that the way Servant stats are handled in the Moon Cell is not quite the same as how they're handled in F/SN.
It just rolls of the tongue more for this gentleman to be called by his full name with the Tohsaka always added, meanwhile Rin is just a Rin.
>The Moon Cell war is based on the Fuyuki system,
Sorry, I lost my backlink somewhere somewhere.
>The Moon Cell war is based on the Fuyuki system
Except no, not at all
Twice was the one who set up the Grail contest to become an all out death match war, but even then it's not the case that it was based off Fuyuki.
I guess it was just kind of an assumption based on the fact that all the NPCs were based on people from Fuyuki and the fact that the Fuyuki grail war system is the only one we know existed in the Extra universe.
I'm just talking in terms of mechanics, I know Twice started it up. The thing seems to be based on how the Fuyuki war worked. I don't know, though, maybe I'm wrong and Twice wrote up a whole new set of rules.
It's mainly coincidence that the people were based off Fuyuki
It's laid out that the Mooncell just chooses some random people from it's data banks to fill out the NPC roles. Of course the reason they fill those roles is also to fool us, the reader. Who makes assumptions because "This person looks like that other person I know" and thus they can fool us like with Shinji who turned out entirely different.
Of course even more coicidences were added on when player characters who also resemble people we know altered their game mods to look like such a person, like Shinji again. Once more as well when the actual person in question does show up, like with Aoko or Touko.
In terms of the NPC and player characters, it's a coincidence and a reference that's meant to lure the player into thinking a certain way.
>Twice was the one who set up the Grail contest to become an all out death match war,
>Twice started it up
Twice didn't start the wars. nor did he change how the system works what are you on about?, he just made himself the last challenge
Okay, that's fine with me. It supports what I was saying originally even more if the rules of the Moon Cell war were never supposed to imitate the Fuyuki war.
Yeah, now that you mention it, that's not right and I'm not really paying any attention to what I'm saying. I'll shut up, sorry.
Rin > Sakura > Saber
The Sakura hate is sort of justified because of hivemind hurr but she's still not as fucking boring as Saber. I'll never understand the fascination with her.
Of course he didn't create the contest, but he mentions at the end of the game that he altered the rules to reflect what he beloved to be the nature of mankind a bit more. he went through the contest at least two times before he made it to the final so of course he didn't create this game, but I recall him saying he made some unspecified changes to it all to make it more kill or be killed here. There's a certain mention of this that stands out here I'm trying to remember. Twice was not able to make his wish come true from outside the core, but he's able to alter some small things from just being near the Mooncell, like causing some wars in the outside world by just using the base functions. This is not enough for him however, he needs to use the full power of the Mooncell to create endless war to avoid stagnation.
He was just a NPC based off somebody that died, he gained Self-awareness, Made himself a master, Summoned Caster and Lost the war Time and Time again. Until he summoned Saver and won the war but couldn't touch the core because he is a NPC. Thus he waited till somebody who shared his Views arrived and let them touch it themselves and fulfill his wishes. everybody that refused to agree with him he killed with the help of Saver. until Extra happened.
I've contributed. Most of what isn't translated is nasu's shitty sex scenes though. I spent an afternoon on some of the rider+sakura+shirou h-scene parts before I got bored.
That's prettymuch the only shit not translated right now- rider, bazette and kotomine's brat.
Here's some translated material about him from the data books.
I know a troll thread when I see one
I know this, just typing his backstory before joining Moon cell is too much effort.
He is in CCC!
mhm, nice reasoning u got there. Why dont you kill yourself faggot
Sakura always reminds me of that anon story about a girl that stuffied his vago with rotten meat full of fly maggots for maximum orgasms
To the best heroine go the best endings
Her hole really isn't that worm out according to Shirou, and Kotomine gave her a wormectify so she's completely worm free.
Kotomine wouldn't lie to you, now would he?
Kotomine never lies, he somethimes hides things, but he never lies
I know a Rinfag when I see one.
That is NOT okay.
Everything is okay
Nothing is wrong
why is there so little fan art/hentai of blond rin?
Couldn't EMIYAn~ have been summoned as a SABER, and why would you want one over an ACHAH? Did he use up all his luck during his time as Shirou in the grail war? Would Shirou have become EMIYA without the paradox that allowed him to meet himself in the grail war?
Caren-chan gets an h-scene?
Stats aren't quite high enough to fit the prerequisites of the Saber class
Throne of Heroes ignores paradox such as Shirou and EMIYA problem. EMIYA's stats was too shitty to qualify for Saber class as I recall, plus no legendary sword of his own. It seems pirating and printing other swords are not allowed as well.
So Jeanne is the savior of /a/?
That's not how that works.
No, she is now the most hated TM in /a/
Those are the basic stats Given to people who are summoned into a class.
SABERs are generally more likely to survive, maybe a higher base stat for luck. He definitely used up all his luck becoming a legendary hero.
Wouldn't /sp/ cross posters the one most likely to hate her since their moment of triumph was cockblocked?
Yes, but both the GETs were pretty horrible, if anything people will dislike TM fans even more than normal for a couple of days for doing such a shit GET
/sp/ was here?
They really are tsundere, huh.
They spent 10(?) hours waiting the GETs, they failed pretty badly the closest they got was 100000002 i think?
It didn't require any luck to become a hero, since all he really did was make a deal with the world for power there. In exchange he became a guardian which are known to also be stored in the Throne but are much less luxury than true heroes, and because the grail was faulty it summoned shit from all over the Throne that it typically wasn't supposed to including guardians and cursed spirits.
Doesn't take a lot of luck to recite the oath for power unto the world in exchange for servitude, but it's still Alaya's choice to accept him if he seems useful.
Luck is the ability to change fate, an unavoidable result can be overturned with luck. That's typically what people like Saber's excel in considering the sword is the standard weapon of a "hero".
>they see you using Mac