Is Wake Up, Girls a deconstruction?
Nah, just a bit more edgy than your typical idol show.
What makes it edgy?
Less idealized fantasy and more gritty hard-hitting "realism."
Motives aren't necessarily "pure" so to speak.
It depends on where they take it. It'd be nice if they make it as gritty as you'd expect when a sleazy guy pulls out a nasty bikini from his pocket in the first episode. However, if the inevitable drama is done poorly, the suffering will come off as forced or even comical.
That's not edgy at all.
>the suffering will come off as forced or even comical.
Comical is what I'm hoping for.
He said "more edgy than your typical idol show" and idol shows tend to be the least edgy things.
Edgy isn't the word of that.
Not me. I want to feel dirty after seeing the things they have to do under the guise of "progressing as idols", only to end up exploited, defiled, and burned out in an obscure dead-end of the industry.
/v/ermin don't have a big vocabulary, let him be.
Can we just stop using that word?
For some reason, School Rumble was the first thing I thought of.
Doesn't matter. No one uses the term "deconstruction" properly anymore.
More like destruction.
Watch it just be them overcoming obstacles with optimism for 11 more episodes where they end up living the dream.
Yamakan like slut.
He make a show about slut.
Sure it is. Look up the definition of edgy, "at the forefront of a trend; experimental or avant-garde." It's more like the actual use of the word.
No, that will be the final episode.
This is literally the Madoka of idol series: being an idol is horrible and bad, but it doesn't have to be.
I fear this will get glass mask serious, these poor girls don't have the talent or the purple roses.
I'm going to say this for the last fucking time...
Taking a classically positive setting/genre and putting an edgy spin on it does not a deconstruction make.
Taking a particular setting/genre and saying "what were to happen if this were in real life?" does not a deconstruction make.
This is why Madoka was not a deconstruction. Oh wait one part was, the way the girls mentally handled all the fighting they did. That's about it. That's the ONLY FUCKING PIECE OF DECONSTRUCTION in the show.
Kick-Ass is only... ONLY a partial deconstruction of the Batman-esque superhero. NOT of superheroes themselves. Watchmen was NOT a true deconstruction of superheroes. Dr. Manhattan did NOT come off as a representation for all superheroes, just as his own character.
Fuck you all.
But which Wake Up Girl will end suffering?
i descconstructed ur MOM !
Shit, typo. Meant to be:
>Taking a particular setting/genre and saying "what were to happen if this were in real life?" DOES a deconstruction make.
The ex-idol girl, almost assuredly.
So basically, School Days is a legitimate deconstruction of the harem convention, based on your definition.
Is the Nyaruko W OP (around 31:35 in the movie) the only song that's from something else or is my power level not high enough to recognize the others (I haven't quite finished the movie yet, and I haven't seen the show's episode)?
But that's not experimental or avant-garde. Putting back realism (consequences and rammifications) to unrealistic genres is a definition of deconstruction.
I'm hoping that too.
So far it looks to be the standard "darker and grittier version of ___"
Which usually winds up being The usual ___ with all the fun sucked out.
But it's only episode 1, too early to tell.
I think it's going to be her friend. The Ex-Idol is going to be the Homaru who tries to save her from a life of being a whore on the street by burdening her friend's debts upon herself.
That's not what that phrase means. It's not "edgy" as in "cutting edge" it's just "dark and edgy" being the opposite of "light and fluffy".
>Watchmen was NOT a true deconstruction of superheroes
>Oh wait one part was, the way the girls mentally handled all the fighting they did.
That part is enough to qualify as a deconstruction
>see flashing panties
Dropped like the fucking bass.
"Deconstruction" is where you critically take apart and examine a given text.
It does not and has never meant what you think it means.
Once again, the anime is saved thanks to the Yamakan girls.
Assuming that this were a deconstruction, what would it be a deconstruction of? Can anyone give examples of the genre and particular shows that this show deconstructs?
My point exactly. There's nothing to deconstruct, so I don't really see how this could be a deconstruction.
It is a betrayal.
Yamakan has allowed the Idols to twist him until now, now he has become the very thing he swore to destroy.
You're missing the point that we're using the term comparatively. He said "more edgy than your typical idol show". It's like saying "wetter than a desert".
It's a perfectly legitimate definition.
You have a liberal arts degree, don't you?
Me too, brother ;_;
Well, School Days exaggerated in the opposite direction from reality, no?
Edgy has a connotation basically meaning to make something 'darker'. Or at least the way I see it used it does. I would never personally use the word myself to describe something, as there are probably more suitable and descriptive words that could better take it's place.
I had the same exact thought process when reading that.
>Well, School Days exaggerated in the opposite direction from reality, no?
There's somewhere out there where people get killed for just an exchange of glances. But that's probably stretching it.
Wake Up, Girls is the Madoka of Evangelion.
I really enjoyed it, manager was a bro and all the girls have pure virgin voices that are like honey to my ears.
This show is not a deconstruction because there's nothing to deconstruct.
Is this worth to watch? I dislike the QUALITY animation.
>He has a liberal art degree.
It's nothing too special yet. It's just a story about a start-up idol agency with some drama. There's nothing that makes it stand out.
I like the prologue movie but I don't like the first episode. I find the prologue to be executed nicely but the first episode seems sloppy. Anyone else feels this way as well?
Yes in a way. Why the fuck must they show their panties off?
The manager should have find someone more decent. Now they are really going to be whore idols.
And I hate it.
Well I don't really mind it. But I feel that it is out of place as an idol.
What if the title Wake Up, Girls is sending a message that being an idol isn't all it's cracked up to be. What if the show is literally a wake up call to the young girls of Japan as every character in it has their dreams destroyed and their lives horribly ruined. What if Yamakan is actually trying to save something.
He's their last resort, they really don't have a choice. There's no real deadline but those bills are stacking up. Soon they'll all be in debt to the Yakuza.