Anyone knows how that 3d art style is called ? Or what define it ? How to achieve it ?You can see this 3d style in some old crappy 90s movies, or in some pc games in the mid 90s as pre-rendered animation.Even in killer instinct or Donkey Kong CountryThe perfect example would be the dialogs in fallout 1&2 https://youtu.be/B_qYMipxsogBut also in popular games as Final Fantasy 7 and Resident Evil 1,2,3 (not the characters/objects but the backgrounds)Most recently you can find this style in five nights at Freddy's.Any ideas ?
>>689710Has no name you fool. It's simply that we tried our best with what was available...while tech and capabilities of software steadily progressed.The end.
>>689716But there should be a way to recreate this feel, as its done in Freddy's...I wish to be able to do it for a personal project
>>689710On a side note (and if you're some zoomer or 3D newbie), that's all pre-PBR workflow, both in shading/lighting and material creation. Also nobody touched poly modeling for high profile work, it was either all NURBS based or scanned from physical references/models.We used a lot more procedural textures. Textures were created and palletized according to their intended use. Raytracing was expensive, so it was either used sparingly or substituted with tricks or hacks. Especially for reflections/refractions. Raytraced shadows were out of the question in animation, so we used shadow-mapped lights. Global illumination existed only in a few high end renderers like Lightscape and was out of the question. We emulated radiosity by placing individual lights or creating dome setups with a lot of lights. Soft raytraced shadows could be achieved by things like the "spinning light trick".Spinning light domes could be used to create something that resembled ambient occlusion. Particles and volumetrics were a lot more primitive, if tools had them at all. Again, lots of fakery to achieve certain effects.Rigging was more tedious, time consuming and error prone. In the early 90s only high-end tools had things like bones or IK. Imagine you have to animate a walk cycle in FK and you get the idea.Until HDDs became big and fast enough, you had to output your stuff to animation recorders or, if you were lucky(or rich) to digital animation recorders. note on that FO stuff:These talking heads come from actual clay models captured with a MicroScribe 3D digitizer.
>>689710just do shitty lighting and you're good to go
>>689718Should be possible.
>>689719Thanks a lot for your answers !Im a yoomer but yes im really noob at 3dMy goal is to create some face animations for a YouTube video that im creating with friends, as i was playing lighthouse (sierra) back when i was a kid, i remembered that i was very scared of these kinds of 3d animations, maybe it's the look of it or the low animation frame rate, but I've always been fascinated by that.Now that I'm starting to play with 3d, i though it would be easy to recreate such graphics, but whatever i try, i can't get the right feel.But I'll look into what you said thanks...You seem to have worked on such graphics back in the days, do you have some examples of your old works, or stories about it ?
>>689719in the mid- to end 90s it was mainly modeled with Power Animator or Softimage 3D and rendered with Renderman or maybe early Mental Ray. The SGI workstations were much stronger in their Graphics pipeline and already 64bit Irix.But with PA came seperate programs for particles, rigging like Kinemation and Dynamtion. They were all lumped together by then end of the 90s in MAYA. Maya's renderer was quite crappy that's why it got Mental Ray later
>>689729Like many people back then I started messing with CG on my Amiga.After film school I worked as a generalist, at first for local businesses and TV stations. Most of my work was for broadcast/TV.At Amblin I worked on season 3 of Seaquest.The only two feature films I contributed to were Ghost in the Machine while at PDI and Armageddon under Digital Domain.I also did art for games between 1995-1997 on a freelance basis.Got really fed up with things in 2001 and changed career.>>689731This is a latter release of PA with all the dynamics and particles directly integrated. Some excellent modeling tools AFAIR, especially the NURBS stuff.Mental Ray was great, used it often with Softimage. Renderman was only found in larger studios with the budgets and manpower to operate it.Some of the oldfags here remember Electric Image Animation System? Probably the only good piece of Mac software I worked with back in the day.
>>689773Electric Image Animation System was like Infini-D and Ray Dream Studio right? I remember that it had it's own rendering suite. I also remember when learning MoGraph with Trish and Chris Meyer books, they mentioned that they used EIAS.http://www.eias3d.com/
>>689719Oooh, that's some good information, anon. I never knew NURBs were prolific back then. Your post also has a few goodies, even though I'd probably cheap out and just go the fast food route of achieving this affect:>raytrace all the things>pitch black ambient lighting, or lack thereof>meshes modeled as if PBR or modern workflow enhancements didn't exist>really thicc use of bump maps>little subtility when it comes to shiney or reflective surfaces>here and there intentionally shoddy model work>really dead simple materialsAnd for bonus points:>use a genuine 90s or early 2000s renderer. Blender Internal would actually suffice, I'd say.In fact, part of using an old renderer is how complex lighting effects that we take for granted today would likely not be on by default if available, for that much more.I think that alone is pretty convincing and the biggest parts of the look.
>>689786Vastly more powerful than both these tools. One of the fastest, high-quality renderers out-of-the-box back then. ILM and some other studios used it extensively throughout the 90s. Often paired with the Form-Z modeler because it lacked own modeling tools in its older versions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBJlyiiZV8&t=201shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bPEhLmn3Hklow quality but you get the ideaSurprisingly it's still under development.
>>689710use blender render instead of cycles
>>689719It's a shame Sonic became such a meme series
>>689719do you remember modeling heads using the sock puppet method where you would start with the mouth and work your way outwards? hahaha so unintuitive
>>689710>How to achieve it ?git bad, forget anatomy
>>689710>The year is 2019, kids are working hard to learn how to make graphics look worse since the default settings in their software creates to good results.Dystopia.jpg
I would say what makes mid-90s stuff is-relative low poly-bare gouraud shaded surfaces-render size 480/360p-prominent Gauss filters and anti-aliasing -LOTS of bump mapping-pixmaps for things like trees/plants instead of 3d models-massive use of procedural textures (avoids also the need for UV mapping)
>>693289>relative low polynot necessarily >bare gouraud shaded surfaceseven Autodesk 3D Studio DOS had Phong shading>render size 480/360p720x486 or 720 × 576 in 24 bit for broadcast purposes>prominent Gauss filters and anti-aliasingwe used as little filtering and as little AA passes as we could get away with>LOTS of bump mappingfor stills yes, for animation it was often avoided because it created flickering with the already low AA >pixmaps for things like trees/plants instead of 3d modelsgood for background stuff >massive use of procedural textures (avoids also the need for UV mapping)yes, we also surfaced even complex objects by breaking them down and using planar mapping
>>689731in the 90s I used POV for rendering via, yes, scripting...and 3D Studio (for DOS)
>>689773Lightwave was very popular on scifi shows back then; I had wet dreams about the lens flares it could produce
>>693223I never modeled characters, I focused on environments
>>693296Don't forget so-called "metal" shading in 3DS4.
it's such an ugly style. please post if you manage to come up with something that looks good.
>>693306shoo shoo zoomlet
>>689719>>693289>>693296>>693299>tfw you will never produce a cheesy 90s sci-fi indie movie with digital creatures, bipedal mechs and massive space battles. why even live?
downloaded & installed a metric shit ton of old graphics software, hoping to produce some A E S T H E T I C / A S S T A S T I C work.
>>693829You have to keep this in an archive. I also recommend making one giant folder and uploading it to web archive.
>>693829also managed to get all that old stock explosion/fire footage they used in 90s/early 00s shows and games from some anon on /vr/
>>693987>>693829Looks like you've got a retro goldmine.
>>693829>>693987ARCHIV THIS
>>694028why? all this stuff is still on cgpersia forums, vetusware, archive.org and rutracker
