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I notice the regular Intuos doesn't have tilt, is that necessary for zbrush and other sculpting apps.
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>>674831
I'm using an old Bamboo and it works just fine. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't think ZBrush even supports pen tilt.
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>>674832

I thought without tilt the pen might not pick up motions depending how you hold the pen. If you have the bamboo and it's good then that's great. Dont see the need to spend twice as much for a pro.
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>>674833
Mine still works with light pressure like pic related, I don't think there's much of a difference in the angle they recognize, you just lose the additional sensor responsible for figuring out the tilt of the pen. It probably has its uses but I honestly view it as kind of a gimmick, like touch gestures or having an eraser on the back of the pen.
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Using a ten years old Bamboo here, too. If tilt was ever necessary I have never noticed it.
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>>674831
the fuck would you actually _need_ tilt for
it's a meme even for 2d workflows what with oversized dildos they call "styluses" mainly their heads everyone I know just resort to path turning anyway
there isn't a single instance where you would benefit from it in zbrush either

I'm actually not even sure it is supported at all
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>>674880
>with oversized dildos they call "styluses"
There is no such thing as an oversized dildo, son.
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>>674889
it's a hyperbole gramps don't take it literally
although I've heard there are styluses resembling brushes now
but typical stylus form is really awful for tilt
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>>674832
This.
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iPad.
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>>674831
I got Ugee HK1560 Drawing Monitor.
I highly recommend buying a tablet monitor vs buying a cheap tablet and looking at your current screen. Hand-Eye coordination is just an unneeded learning curve.
Of course if you got enough money then you want to go for Cintiq because it let's you draw real good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0dH4P0jHJA
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>>674945
yeah you can't connect that up to nearly any 3d software. good luck using zbrush or photoshop with an ipad baka
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Tilt is a meme feature that is just played up for marketing value the same as pressure levels.
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>>675115
>the same as pressure levels
shut up pressurelet I NEED those 4k levels if your behemoth hand can't feel the difference between 3998 and 3997 then you're not cut for the job
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>>674988
Wacom Cintiq 16 or XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro?
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>>674831
Does the tablet in OP make for a good mouse replacement? Thinking of letting the arm in a more neutral position (no pronation)
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After years of paining and sculpting without one I'm finally ready to hop on the tablet train. Can you recommend something for max $400-500?
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>>675152
*painting
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OP here. I got the regular intuos pictured above. Good fucking shit. Nice and light and I like the way the surface is seamless. Pen is super light and you forget you are holding it.. The only autistic thing that bothers me is the power light. Everyone was correct and you dont need tilt. Really dont see what difference the pro model would make so save ur money.
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>>675152
Buy a Wacom, or look up the reviews for some Huion/Monoprice/Ugee/whatever off-brand Chinese shit you can find to see if it's as good as a Wacom. You can easily afford a knockoff Cintiq with $400, or save your money and get a decent sized Intuos/Intuos clone for around a hundred.
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>>675156
IMO the only real reason to buy a pro is if you prefer to have a larger surface area, the pen tilt/multitouch gestures/buttons/click wheel/eraser/etc are gimmicks you can live without. Or if you're autistic like >>675131 and you need 16 billion levels of pressure instead of 2k/4k.
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>>675159
>autistic
Sure, call it autism, but real life brushes have *continuous* levels of pressure. You think Leonardo could have painted his shit if he were limited to a 2k levels brush?
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>>675159
>autistic
I wouldn't expect understanding from pressurelet, I bet you model with mouse too
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>>675163
I model with a trackpad. Get on my fucking level.
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>>674993
He might be on MacOs, where they can use the ipad as a monitor replacement.

If so, i pitty him.
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>>674831
I have the cheapest Wacom One new that I could find on Ebay, I bought that arrouund 3 years ago and I think I paid 30 euros, pic related, I maybe but that Xp pen, it was 200 euros on Amazon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4YLPvtE5Wg
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>>675172
>I model with a trackpad.
Same here. Trackpad best pad.
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>>675172
Why would anyone want to go down levels?
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What's a good tablet for someone who wants to just make models for game mods and not really go professional?
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Just bought an Intuos pro. I've been trained in several traditional techniques like oil and airbrush and it's really hard for me to get the feel for this.
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>>676000
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/XP-Pen-Star-G640-Drawing-Graphic-tablet-Digital-tablet-for-OSU-and-drawing-8192-Levels-Pressure/32871479347.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.32c82391ux8R3d&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10068_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_321_322_10084_453_10083_454_10103_10618_10304_10307_10820_10821_537_10302_536,searchweb201603_54,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=8377545a-f515-4e51-ac72-568c160b3dd4-0&algo_pvid=8377545a-f515-4e51-ac72-568c160b3dd4&transAbTest=ae803_5

you can get very cheap tablets from Aliexpress. if you can also find one that goes through without customs fee, shipping cost or tax, it's a win win
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>>676001

Try Artrage.
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The nibs on newer Wacom tablets wear down extremely fast, get an old model if you can
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>>679141
Just buy more.
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>>679141
It's the abrasive texture of that 'it's just like paper' that's nothing like paper. I've just taken a 4-stage nail buffer and grinded my tablets to a mirror finish for the couple I've had since they started doing that surface, still on the same nib as when I got it.
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>>679155
(if you then still want the real paper feel - tape a real paper on-top of the tablet)
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>>679155
>>679157
what the fuck
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>>679242
The Wacom tablets back in the day had a gloss finish surface, back then it was very common for some artists
to place a paper on top of them in case they wanted some texture to it.
Starting with Intuos 3 or 4 wacom started doing a new surface finish ofn them meant to mimic paper
it would cause rapid nib wear causing them to become flat on one side after not many hours of use.
In my view it also feels more like drawing on some kind of very fine sandpaper rather than any actual paper.

I was very accustomed to the gloss finish of the old tablets and much preferred how they felt
so I simply started removing that surface texture from my tablets since it's a very easy fix.

If you know how to polish your nails you'll know how to polish your tablet.
you're simply removing a few micrometere of material from the surface to give it a 'shine' finish, there are no risks involved.

Cept your girlfriend might wonder why there's black shit on her nailbuffer, but that can easily be resolved by obtaining your own.
they cost like 2 bucks a piece.
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>>674831
Huions are decent if you're on a budget. Wacom is a meme. Although they're "industry standard", we're talking about tablets here so, a fork is a fork and a hammer is a hammer. It's not like the difference between Blender and Maya for instance.

I decided to spring on the Kamvas Pro 13 HD because I'm in college and wanted a graphic display. Only 320$ dollarydoos on amazon with the coupon at checkout. I'm pretty happy with it. I've had none of the issues some people reported like line wobble or screen calibration. Plus I think a firmware update fixed all that anyway.
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>>674831
but even my intuos1 has tilt recogition.
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>>674880
surely it's useful for sculpting.
>>674988
Cintiq is over-rated, got myself 24HD and have regretted it a lot. Also Wacom customer service screwed me over.
(brand new unit had faulty fan, they switched me a refurbished one with scratches all over)

if you really want an actual screen tablet, go with a knock off brand or a laptop with stylus.
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>>674880
>it's a meme even for 2d workflows
This, to be honest. There are some rare cases where things like tilt and pen rotation can be handy, but they are so few and so far between that you just save more time not having to deal with those mostly problematic features in the first place. It's one of those things where it's like, if you know what you're doing, then you don't need it; and if you don't know what you're doing, why the fuck are you dealing with shit like tilt in the first place? Get that hard round out and start painting, jackass.

All you need to make polished art is resolution and patience (assuming you can draw, and deal with color, of course). See pic related, for instance; if you zoom in, you'll just see a bunch of circles.
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>>674831
No, tilt is a gimmick. If you have issues with eye hand coordination, buy yourself a pen display, but imo stay away from Wacom and get yourself one of the cheaper alternatives like Huion. What actually matters is pen pressure(8k is best) and size of the device. All the rest like tilt, parallax, etc are imo memes that you won't really ever notice or need
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>>679524
Have you actually tried laminated displays to say that for sure? Seems it's useful to have close to no distance between the pen and what you're painting instead of something like 5 mm or more.
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>>679502
Nah tilt can be pretty handy, but really only for digital traditional media or whatever it’s called like Painter. If you’re not trying to emulate real world shit then yeah, never seen a use for it that’s not a meme.
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>>679529
i have, i work on a cintiq at work and have a Huion at home.I actually prefer the space because it leaves me some space to see what I'm doing. Maybe the guys that draw have different needs, but for what i used it(sculpting and texturing) is a big meme imo
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>>674831
Strictly Wacom or Huion imo. Wacom is the best but Huion comes close, I've known many people with Ugee or off-brand and they broke easily or there were driver problems. Better be safe.



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