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hey guys, i end school in this year, can you advise me good school of 2d and 3d character design from zero, for beginner, in LA
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>>639644
>barely of age to browse 4chan
>LA
>wants to do character design
Is there a better way to let everyone know you're a spoiled upper middle class white kid?
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>>639646
Jealous?
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>>639647
I already work in the industry m8. No amount of money can buy skills.
It's just that it sounds like someone who doesn't have a clue about the industry.
Successful character artists started as kids, because they felt the drive inside them. They had ideas for their own characters. They learned to draw on their own, then either switched to a school or kept self-teaching.
In this field a school only serves to complement the work you already did on your own both before and during your studies with a piece of paper. It's true even for the most technical roles, much more for the artistic ones.
What OP (you?) is asking is basically "is there a school that pumps out Stan Lees every year?"
No, there isn't.
And you ain't gonna become one if you expected merely attending a school would do all the heavy hauling for you.
And it's the typical daddy's boy mindset.
>Freeload all my life until college
>choose a career that would sound cool on my Facebook status
>fail miserably
>freeload until retirement.
>die without having accomplished anything in life
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>>639646
lol
first, where i am say that im not 18ye?
second, where i am say that i study in midle class?
thrid, you are racist? why white kid?
let i know something about me, i am from another country and i actually end school, buy in my country we have 11 years study(on this moment you can understand that im from russia) nad here, in LA, i must end 12 year of study. so, you are crap with your guesswork
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>>639649
He should just skip the rest of your greentext and go straight to the part where he dies a loser.
Hate to break it to you OP, but art schools are mostly just a meme. Sure you CAN find good teachers, but you won't.
Save yourself the trouble and pick an easier career, or if you're really that dedicated to this, do yourself a favor and just self-teach yourself.
The only piece of paper you need as an artist is the one with your art on it.
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>>639644
>>639650
ESL peasant.
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>>639649
no look, i ike drawing, and drawing from 13 ye, i just need knowledge about anatomy and perspective, i know how to work in zbeush, 3ds max. i dont find in the open access about good shot, video, model of anatomy and stuff like this, i just wont go to campus, and that teacher showed me how connect muscle, proportions of man and so forth. i actually have simple perseption of anatomy, but this knowledge is not complete. also i want to make hardsurface stuff, but i dont find cool lessons, i make right now one character and i cant find good lesson how to make shoe like nike or vans, i find only how to make boots. and i dont understand how to draw 2d concept art in ps, i have problem with shading/lightning, and i cant ask sombody about my trouble
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>>639652
what is this?
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>>639654
Make an account for CGPeers (Registration will open on the 1st/15th of every month) and pirate the shit out of tutorials.
Maybe lurk /3/ some more. You'll pick some things up by reading posts. It'll help your english as well.
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>>639650
>barely of age
Means you're over 18. But just by a little. It means you're in the that phase where you believe you magically became an adult, even though you're just as immature (or mature, depends) as you were a few months prior.

>am say that i study in midle class
LOL. Had to read it twice to understand. "Upper middle class" means your parents make something like $300'000/year each and regularly buy their children Audi/BMW/Mercedes for their 16th birthday, new iPhones every year, and a brand new downtown apartment when they graduate college.
Not that you're in middle school.

And if you moved from ass-freezing Russia to motherfucking Los Angeles it means your dad is either Vladimir Putin or a billionaire.
Good for you desu, but it ain't gonna help you become a character designer.

Both poor and rich niggers go for a rapping career most of the time.
And really, are you surprised about racism on 4chan?

>>639651
Art school is less of a meme than most people think.
It's easier to graduate from it because nobody will check that you're putting in the effort. In other courses they hold your hand and force you to study shit that you don't care about in order to pass. Art is about practice, if you don't practice, nobody can force you to. If you practice just enough to pass, you're going to be at a disadvantage compared to the guys that worked their ass off. And nobody cares about your degree, they care about your portfolio.
A degree is only useful when you apply for visas, and you'll need them, considering you'll have to travel a lot in this field if you want to work on the cool shit. And also for your parents so they can virtue signal about their child holding a degree in something.

>>639654
I literally cannot make sense of any of this.
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>>639668
yep, thx, i know my english not good, im only 9 month in america
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>>639670
>Means you're over 18. But just by a little. It means you're in the that phase where you believe you magically became an adult, even though you're just as immature (or mature, depends) as you were a few months prior.

yep, look, i like 3d and i wanna study fast

>Upper middle class

ok, now i understood what it means

>And if you moved from ass-freezing Russia to motherfucking Los Angeles it means your dad is either Vladimir Putin or a billionaire.
Good for you desu, but it ain't gonna help you become a character designer.

wanna one interesting thing? my name vladimir too.
and no this peace of shit not my dad
leave from russia more easy than you think, of course russia is a third world country, and putin steal all money from russia, BUT on this moment you can leave this country, but I think soon will close the border as in the USSR

yep, i know that dont help, i just try to say that im "adult' but in my country...


>Both poor and rich niggers go for a rapping career most of the time.
And really, are you surprised about racism on 4chan?

im not a nigga, im not excited from racism because in russia every angle in racism

>It's easier to graduate from it because nobody will check that you're putting in the effort. In other courses they hold your hand and force you to study shit that you don't care about in order to pass. Art is about practice, if you don't practice, nobody can force you to. If you practice just enough to pass, you're going to be at a disadvantage compared to the guys that worked their ass off. And nobody cares about your degree, they care about your portfolio.

i know, but how i do my portfolio if dont have any knowledge about simple thing like anatomy or perspective?

>I literally cannot make sense of any of this.
i just need good lesson, but i cant find...ok?
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>>639668
i cant enter, wtf
cgpeers.com this site??????
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>>639668
and if this is pirate site, how can I download if piracy is prohibited in america???
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>>639681
>if dont have any knowledge about simple thing like anatomy or perspective?
Then search on Google ffs.

Or go to Gnomon, it's just around the corner from Hollywood.
Drop $200'000 on it and receive your education. Your parents can afford it, right?
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>>639686
Is this guy for fucking real?
I mean holy shit you're Russian, Russia is the birthplace of piracy.
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>>639688
yep man
i have a lot of pirate soft, i new her and i dont know how to download without fine. does simple torrent work here? if i can download file without vpn/proxy how much i can download? if not, where i can find guide how download in america from torrent tracker?

>Russia is the birthplace of piracy.

yes, you are right, every man in russia have torrent, but, download pirate soft/game/book/music its like go to store and buy water, its too easy man
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>>639687
you stupid or yes? i just need good lesson for beginer, it can be campus, or it can be online education
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>>639655
ESL = English as a Second Language.

Some people are annoyed that other people learn their language and use it. They like to point this out by using the term "ESL" in a derisive way.
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>>639712
lol, english its a world language, very stupid position. Thank you for the clarification
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>>639703
Use a VPN. I personally recommend AirVPN, they are serious and as transparent as a VPN can be. I used to have a seedbox when my connection wasn't fast enough, but that's maybe overkill. You may find it useful anyway, though. There is an r/piracy board in Reddit, I haven't been much there, but I think they have some sort of FAQ that may help you with info of this kind.

CGPeers opens registration on the 1st and 15th of each month. They appear to be down now, but that happens frequently. Just be patient. You also have GFXPeers, I believe you can register at any time. They also go down on occassion, almost every month.

Search for Scott Eaton's courses on anatomy, practice the shit out of them in ZBrush. There's also a book, Anatomy for Sculptors, with pretty good reference.
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>>639715
thank you man, its useful information
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>>639644
>can you advise me good school of 2d and 3d character design
Yeah, the DON'T GO TO SCHOOL-school. It's great. It basically works by making use of free education and learning from others in the community, by working hard and making a name for yourself for the things you have ambition for. It's a great school.

Do not support any 'school'. It's 2018 and these shitboxes sprout from the bottom trying to exploit anything they can get their greedy hands on. Nobody needs them. The only thing they do is slowly instill a label of pseudo-elitism. By supporting these nazis, you contribute to a scenario where someday recruiters don't even look at your portfolio or CV before checking your educational background and people will be forced to spend tons of time and money in these greedy asswipes' mouthes.
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>>639644
Study Industrial Design Engineering and use that knowledge to do character design. At least you have something to do if your 3d career fails.
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>>639644

CGMA, work part time and do it at night.

Start with 2D foundation if you really want to do design.

Then consider taking character design course after you brought zbrush.
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>>639786
ok,thx.
>Start with 2D foundation if you really want to do design.
why i must start from 2d? i just have potato pc and photoshop lagging
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>>639823
Use pencil and paper, then.
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>>639823
2D foundations means you can spend, for example, 1 hour on creating 30 quick designs and see what works, versus 1 hour on a single 3d sculpt.

Get your idea/character to work before you spend a lot of time rendering/sculpting it and then having it rejected
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>>639823
if your pc is lagging on photoshop, how the fuck will it handle 3d softwares?
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>>639901
easy, under 10points in zbrush
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>>639901
easy. in zbrush under 10million points...





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