What CPU do you use for your 3D work?Do you prefer Intel or AMD?
>>594169Is Coffee Lake really as good as /g/ says?
>>594169I use an i7 6700 that I bought usedI did run out of money in that time, is ok if you don't mind waiting longer times.Also depending on what you do, think about the GPU too.
>>594182/g/ hates Coffin/Cofveve Lake as they call it, but it’s actually a pretty good CPU for 3D in most aspects except rendering.For tasks that aren’t thread-heavy like general modeling and viewport performance, a fast CPU is preferable. For tasks that are somewhat well-threaded, like physics and compression, you generally don’t need more than 6-8 cores to hit peak performance.And for rendering, 1400CB stock is ultimately not that bad, a 1950X costs 3x as much for a bit over 2x the performance, while being slower in lightly threaded tasks.If you’re not actively rendering, you’ll be giving up some performance with any of the “big” chips from AMD and Intel, and seeing as many artists are using real-time solutions like Marmoset, Unreal, Substance, and the many GPU renderers available like Octane, Redshift and Iray, having a beefy CPU generally isn’t that important unless for some reason you want to cram you system full of GPUs, in which case you do actually need an HEDT platform.
i9-7900x for Houdini. Perfect for the mix of single-threaded and multt-threaded ops
>>594204What would you say is the best affordable ($300-$400) CPU for heavy duty sculpting and physics?
I don't get this - when these types of threads show up, you all seem to use some super expensive stuff which implies you're professionals.Well, if so many members of this board actually work in the industry, why are vast majority of threads filled with bullshit and shitposting, while WIPs are always full of obviously amateur work. Where do you guys post and why is it so hard to read something informational here? Or are those shitty renders and unknowledgeable responses actually yours and standards to enter the industry are actually that low?
>>594213I'm an untalented, wealthy fucktard. Does this answer your question?
>>594213people love to brag. If they can't create masterpieces at least they can tell you how awesome their hardware is.Me, i have an old I7-3770K and its good enough to work with in most cases. Obviously, simulation of physics and rendering is not the fastest but its neither the slowest. The CPU is still pretty decent. If i would buy a new one i would go for an Ryzen 1700. I probably can't afford more than that, i would spend more on the GPU since i am working with UE4 now.Intel has fucked its customers long enough with their high prices and slow development and AMD has proven themselves again so i would buy AMD.
>>594210Check out pugetsystems.com, they have a ton of articles where they test workstation programs with various processors, but so far they only tested Revit and SolidWorks with coffee lake. Even so, if we are to assume that the viewport performance and simulation scores are generally representative of 3D software as a whole, seeing as the trends are similar across the board, then a 4 to 6-core i7 chip offers the best overall value.Compared to say a Ryzen 1700x, you get 15~20% better performance on real-time and simulation performance, at a cost of 30% rendering time. The 8700K takes that loss back a little with no impact to single-core scores, but none of these chips are ever going to be that great for rendering.
If you upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 OEM, is the digital license tied to your hardware?If I wanted to change motherboards for a CPU upgrade, would I have to buy another Windows 10 license?
amd athlon2 x3
>>594228Yes and yes i think. OEM is tied to the hardware, changing the motherboard and CPU counts as new computer which technically it is.
>>594297Stop spreading misinformation.https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change
Coffee Lake price drop when? New supply coming in the middle of December, right?
>>594213the stuff in these threads is hardly that expensive.
i7 2600. Yeah, the locked version. I had to underclock it to 3.2 GHz too because I was having stability issues with it (Windows randomly bluescreens at least once a day).It takes some 5 minutes to bake one 1024x1024 AO map in xNormals.
>>594169AMD/Intel doesn't matter, get whatever has the more cores/threads of the current year for a good price. I'm running an i7 4770 now because i last upgraded around early 2014. If i were building a PC today i'd likely go with Threadripper.
>>596723More cores just helps render times right?For physics sims and optimizing performance in general, doesn't 3D software still mostly rely on single core performance?
>>596751lol no, its not 1998 anymore.
>>596752It's not 2022 either, Pajeet.
>>596751Depends on what you class as a physics sim, some solvers use the GPU, and those that use the CPU are threaded, but usually not to the point of receiving benefit from more than 4-6 cores. Assuming Houdini fits this description, then all bets are off regarding how much is enough.But regardless of what you do, core speed will always factor in to how fast everything feels, so for the most part it’s not a good idea to sacrifice this aspect unless you feel the extra cores will really help. The biggest advantage to moving to a HEDT system is more for the full board of 16x PCI-E lanes more than the CPU itself, which would let you cram in four GPUs for max rendering power should you need it down the line.So as of right now winter 2017, the best workstation CPU is unironically the 8700K, outside of special use cases. Should AMD’s Zen 2 end up being even half as monsterous as those fake sides claim, then perhaps next year it’ll be the best. Buying expensive CPUs is risky.
So what now after this whole intel shitshow?
>>599523amd is affected as well by meltdown, kid
>>599524No, AMD is only affected by the more minor bug called Spectre. The massive catastrophic bug is Intel-only. Say, isn't it past your bedtime, gramps?
>>599529I'm still up kid. I'm actually headed to the store to return my brand new still in box 8700k and Mobo for and ryzen 7 1800x with 8 cores and amd Mobo. Feels goodman
>>594169Intel is expensive, but fast and reliable - i always use it with ASUS motherboards. My most recent PC was one i build for my sister, a discount AMD, who nowadays has roughly the same potency as mine (which was build 5 years ago). Time flies, folks.
>>5941694 x E7-8890 V4
>>599523Depends on whether or not the patch will affect performance in workstation-grade programs, and based on some pre/post-patch benchmarks it seems that neither games nor Cinebench are affected, which means that this is something unique to server workloads, specifically where multiple VMs are concerned. Considering the bug allows you to gain access to memory outside of a virtual environment, I think it should start to become obvious that this is of little concern to most people. Where it does hurt it’s really bad, but if you’re just an average Joe looking to buy a system for productivity, it’s irrelevant.>>599530I still stand by my opinion that the 8700K is the better chip, however I’ll also add that the 1800x is just a waste of money and even the 1700x is probably not as great a deal as the 1700, which can be overclocked to be as fast as any of them. No Ryzen chip can break 4.0~4.1Ghz on even water cooling, so binning is largely irrelevant. I would suggest investing the extra money in fast RAM as that does tangibly affect performance on Zen, if you have less than 3200Mhz, you’re not using it up to its potential.