Anyone tried to make it on patreon?What are your tips?I tend to check Graphtreon everyday and it interesting to see people make it big. For example, exiscoming has only been doing this for a few months yet he has picked up a ton of subs.Notice that monster girl is a huge thing on patreon. I also notice that slave trainers are still big. Another thing is most of the people making big money aren't that skilled to be honest. Like there is a guy who making 10k a month using someone elses art assets. Not sure if it even possible to make it on patreon now.
give people what they want and offer rewards that are worth their support."making it big" on patreon doesnt mean you have to get tens of thousands of dollars a month. If you put out consistent content, and dont make promises you cant keep, you should be able to make a reasonable amount of money on patreon.The first step is mustering the arrogance and audacity to stand up and say that what you do deserves to be paid for. A hurdle I havent personally overcome yet.
>>575831100x this. If you can't make it, perhaps you're just a shitty person with shitty ideas.
step 1) make porn
forget anime and furry porn.make source film maker shit and get rich.even the MLP ones seem to do really nicely for some reason. I thought the fad was over.
Have rich parents who funnel money to you through a third party to dodge inheritance taxes.
>>575809>even possible to make it on patreon nowThere's no such thing as market saturation in the art world.If you are not making money on patreon, either your content is not good enough, or you are not reaching out to an audience.In the general case, if you are putting out content, and your content is good enough, your audience will already know about you. This is a virtue that should be understood in the post-Google-botnet world.
>>578115Also it should be understood that you don't need to pander to any particular audience. Internet is a big place.Just do whatever gets your rocks off. You'll live longer.
>>575897Nah, the fad has just moved to a new audience. /pol/ got into that scene like fucking crazy back in april.
>>578013Literally the opposite of this. Appeal to furries and/or cucks whilst you are at it and you'll be rolling in it
>>575809Your options are:1. Porn2. Ponies3. Furry4. All of the aboveMake grandiose promises and let the money roll in for a year, then cut all ties and disappear. It helps to use a pseudonym.
>>578350>running off with 180K cause you don't give a fuck about Patreon donators and it's legalMakes me think really.
What kind of content are you guys talking about? Any links to these patreons?
>>578429Sure thing, degenerate friendo.https://www.patreon.com/fekhttps://www.patreon.com/fowhttps://www.patreon.com/CloudMeadowhttps://www.patreon.com/monstergirlisland
>>578474do you know of any lolicon focused patreons?asking for a friend
>>578477Sure you do.
>>578474>neurosurgeons, military generals and the head of NASA make less money than a porn artist really gets my noggin joggin
>>580102But then again, that studio Fow for example has, like, 20 people, so it's not that much money. Even if it was 30k per person, for doing something like this and spreading degeneracy in the world for some $$$ you really have to be a shitty person.
>>578477Just be a girl and offer lewds for money on patreon
>>578474 The fuck? I don't get it. Who wants to team up and make some porn games or whatever the fuck?
Do you think there's a market on Patreon for asset modeling, like creating various anime girls, rigging and skin weighting them for others to use?
3D cartoon porn is in very high demand right now if you can animate.
>>580210You would be limiting your supporter to be people that could actually use your models, which is not a lot of people, relatively speaking.However, if you were to also make simple pose renders you could open yourself up to support from more regular people.Dont expect too much unless you walk down the furry path though.
>>580231I can. Now what?
>>580260make it, put it on tumblr/twitter and get a following. once the commissions start rolling in make a patreon. it's a good idea to start with fan artstream yourself making them on picarto if you can
>>575809>I tend to check Graphtreon everydayYou need to get your life in order.
Can you even make any money on something non-porn?
>>580317i seen a pateron that made 20k a month with sketches of fruit of cakeand it wasn't even good, just cuteand oh yeah, its a girl
>>580317Rarely, but only if you already have an established following and do something really niche like university lectures or coding an emulator or running a podcast.https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creatorsIt more or less boils down to having a monopoly in a particular segment. Same logic applies to porn too, in fact. Most of the top earning porn artists are the ones who do animated crap or games, and there's like two other people willing to compete with them.
>>580330>i seen a patreon that made 20k a month with sketches of fruit of cakeWho is this person?
>>580406This.>make one rigged loli model>make one rigged dick model>make a few hairstyles>change skin tones occasionally and call them "new characters">mix and match>get stock animu moans and voices>profit
>>578350at this point of time I've figured out something really important, you don't really need a huge market, you just need a very desperate one, like furries and mlp fags, they're already comitted enough, and the lacking of content is sure to get you noticed, and once they do notice you, they'll go out of their way to give you every last cent they can just to support their depraved addiction to fucked up pornso either do overwatch porn(but you have to be kinda good to make $, because there's a shti ton of it already), or do really fucked up shit for a small but very very dedicated followingalso setting up multiple personalities is a no brainer because you can do both without rly "ruining your image"
>>580334>coding an emulatorwhich one does that?
>>580260basically this>>580280I started checking this shit out only recently, but there's a literally fool proof formula.1.Learn how to get good stills or animate with SFM(both are piss easy)2.Create a NSFW tumblr, and whatever else social media that will allow NSFW shit to be posted3.Start posting shit on all those on a regular basis.You can actually post your shit on /gif/ too, and relentlessly samefag until people pick up your shit and you start seeing it reposted by others.4.Assuming you're not completely shit those fuckers will be all over you in no time5.Now the time to do commissions and get some cash, also time to make a patreon(or at least make it publicly known)6.profit???seriously I've seen some really shitty literally just picked up sfm 5 minutes ago and decided to start putting my shit on the internet kind of stuff out there, and they're still getting money, maybe not as much as people like FOW, but this is where the "don't be shit" part is involved
>>581533cemu (9001 usd per month) and that one ps3 emu (2 bucks a month lmao)
>>580406Don't have to go to school anymore.Teach kids to make lewd 3d art, make 10 grand a year...
>>581764>all characters are 18+>they literally are all pre-pubescentthis wont hold up in court, and hasnt in the past. reported
>>581765Still makes more money than you'll ever doThis guy will continue to survive making profit, what are you, envious?
>>581767No, I'm not envious of a cp peddler who will be imprisoned soon
>>581768Alright, I understand.But I don't think he will he get into trouble, or imprisonedWhile others aspire to be him
>>581768US actually has most states allowing distribution and creation of drawn/modelled lolis. A lot of people are actually mistaken that the US isn't free to host/create loli porn, but it actually is much more free than most Euro countries in this regard. Guess it just depends on where the boy lives.
>>581764Uhm... excuse me sir, but that's 10k a MONTH
>>581944>tfw you can make as much money as someone with a 7-10 year degree by just making copy paste lolis penetrating each other>tfw I'm too much of a moralfag to do the same for a living
>>581957Thats similar to prostitutionhowever except for the moral fag part because you are not ruining other people's life, but making other people happy.Go for it anon.
>>581957>>582037I've grown to really resent people who do SFM-type porn. Consider the fact that they're making mad shekels out of a game dev's assets, while the people who spent hours coding and ripping those models from the game and then processing them in a 3D software (for rigging, texturing, modding...) don't get jack shit for their work.It's worse than prostitution because it's profiting off of other people's work in the process.Now if you're talking about making your own assets (like most Japanese hentai peddlers do for example), then I completely support that.
>>582043I don't know about the coding and ripping models but he gets prisma illya character models and from some other anime, which I don't think those 3D assets were made
>>582043>don't get jack shit for their work.that's not really the sfm makers fault now is it, and even if close down sites for mass distribution of assets, then most of those sfm would buy said assets via the games they come from, (if they haven't already), and make them(by themselves) into the titty vag mods you see in sfm, and saying I can't make a movie with that, and people can't decide to give me their money because of it is kinda stupid, it's like saying I can't make movies and put stuff in them without specifically paying the people who made them, especially if I get it from something I own. It's like all those faggets that get your vids down just because you use some song, but you can't because "ït's theirs" and how dare you use it without giving them extra shekels, it's literally the jewiest thing ever.Besides all the peeps making vids get money for putting time in to animate it, they also commission people to make the nude models, so technically it's kinda like sampling music, and that case was closed a long time ago.
Here's my furry porn OC (patented, pls dont stel), could I get tons of patreon donations?(tbhonst I can actually model, rig, and animate)
>>582501you know... i'm not convinced it's that bad of a start? you've got some things going for you: it's cute... it has limbs... titties? and i think if you expanded on this, not even necessarily did an extraordinary job modelling just making it bigger with some more features that are easier to sexualize and connecting the floating objects, you could get someone's dick hard enough for money. especially if they were animated interestingly.don't be scared of genuinely putting in effort!
>>582506there we go, patreon money plz
>>582510do her breasts get bruised from being constantly pummeled by her legs when she's running? being green the cat is suffering
>>582511*xergreen the cat serves all demographics.and yes, xer breasts are very bruised so it's up to you, the viewer, to take care of xer and make xer feel better.
>>582510lol this is cute as fuck.
>>581536Okay, I'll try my best.
>>581536>>582543>>582573I made a majorly sex version of green the cat so you get the cute and the bonar>>>/trash/11595707
>>575809>I tend to check Graphtreon everyday and it interesting to see people make it bignone of them does. think about fucking taxes and what partheon takes away. you need to work 3 times the same to get 10% more.
>>582801>think about fucking taxes and what partheon takes away.Patreon deducts before payout (and it's only 5%) so you're getting taxed on 95%.Unless you live in some insanely high taxed country, even in a bad scenario where you're in a country trapped with both high Capital Gains and Personal Income Tax, you're still making 50-65% of your Patreon bucks, for someone big making $10,000 a month that's still nothing to scoff at.You might also have local loopholes like making a business for your Patreon to get up to capped corporate tax rates instead of dealing with personal, that would cap your taxes at 35% here.
>>575897Is there anything inherently different about SFM that sets it apart from C4D, Maya, Blender and the like?
>>582816Super easy to use. It's also absolute trash compared to something like C4D or Maya. It just renders prettied up non-realtime source engine graphics and not something like Maya would.Compare the art of Ellowas (Animated in Maya, rendered with Redshift, the same renderer Blizzard themselves use for since the Overwatch announcement) to someone like Aviass (SFM)http://ellowas.tumblr.com/https://aviass.tumblr.com/Huge difference, especially the animations more than the stills. Though try to compare the QUALITY of the work, not the models as Ellowas is just a better artist period. His models are hand made based on Blizzards, whereas 99% of the SFM is all the same shit coming from sharing websites.
>>582826ThisSFM art is so easy to tell apart from actual renderers b/c Source is ass when it comes to lighting.You could get comparable animation results with SFM howeer, it depends on the animator. It's much easier in other programs though since you have unlimited viewports instead of just 2 (+ wireframe view etc)
If this is so easy, why don't more people do it?Lack of imagination for porn scenes?
>>582828i'd do it if i was confident i'd be able to supply a steady stream of content, and frankly i'm not at that level of competency yet.i don't think a lack of imagination for the scenes would be a problem, you could hit randomize on some porn booru and more or less replicate the scene.a lot of it has to be the time required, the motivation and discipline to keep it going since your income is going to rely on people wanting continued access to your work, and maybe some sort of ethics for some people but i think for most of us we'd be lying if we said that was the reason why we didn't do it.
>>582828its the same as prostitution
>>580197Programmer here with 2D art skills and a lot of porn game ideas. Let's do this.
3D animator with other general 3D/ Unity skills and creator of famous OC green the cat here. If you need it, I'd want in on this scam I mean money making game project.
>>583054>green the cat creatoroh my god i love your work
>>575809im going to start my own from doing a stick figures and then making something god tier, GOD BLESS ME.
>>583056Thanks bro, always happy to meet a fan of my famous OC green the cat
be a women, or black or a fag
>>583223What if I'm a white male fag?
>>578474holy fuck i wanna die now
>>581527>and the lacking of content is sure to get you noticed>lack of contentYou must be new.
>>581770>A lot of people are actually mistaken that the US isn't free to host/create loli porn, but it actually is much more free than most Euro countries in this regard.I guess that explains why Shadman fled to the US
>>582955Except you don't actually have to perform coitus.
>>580197I do, me, 2 programmers, and an animator are already working on a project, Ive wanted to jump on this for a while. However it is hard to find real irl people that want to do this and are functional capable
>>582816yes that its shit
>>582850Actually on my end, it's the lack of creativity. There's a market out there for what I want to make, but coming up with new and interesting takes with the same set of characters in SFM is hard. Honestly, if I had an idea guy, I would love to start some kind of studio, because those seem to attract a lot of Patreon money.
>>587862What how is it hard to come up with new stuff? Have like Road Hog lift dva up by her pussy with his hook and go from there
>>587862Remember the episode of Everybody Loves Raymond where he and Deborah play a sexy boardgame in which you roll the dice and you gotta do some random thing?Set up a list of fetishes / moods / camera angles / settings / colors / franchises / props and randomize, maybe even work in a random sentence / word generator that has nothing to do with it to see how it influences your ideas. http://watchout4snakes.com/wo4snakes/Random/RandomPhrase>D.Va, small penis, green lighting, "gentled fixture"Small penis D.Va is my favorite D.Va, only like two or three people that do it though. Gotta be dick and balls, no vagina. Folks gotta pick one, penis + vagina or penis + balls + vagina is weird to me.Yeah I'm gay as fuck, I'm not going to pretend it isn't gay. I've jerked off to real life guys. I'm a slut for cute cock.
>>587917>>587918It's incredibly hard for me because I want to focus on higher quality stuff, that a story can be told with it, and I realize how fucking retarded I sound now, I'll try that suggestion then.
>>580106studio fow is one person who occasionally pays someone for a sound effect
>>587975Focus on your artistic craft. Make friends with creative people, writers. Follow porn artists. Steal their ideas and make them yours. There is no shortage of horny kids with interesting ideas to animate, all you need to do is have good taste and refine what's out there to define your own vision.
since horse and loli porn is banned from patreon it is pretty much dead for 3D artists
>>588333everyone has known that pateron is shit for like 100 years now
>>588333what's a patreon alternative for loli? does hatreon tolerate it? or is their "no speech policing" thing a meme
>>588333Name one patreon that has been banned
>>588219It isn't, there was even this whole drama about some guy that they hired to do some parts of a scene, and he then lied he needed money, which they gave him , he never returned them and offered some low quality delayed work, instead of what he was supposed to give them.
>>588505everyone on hatreon
Anyone want to talk about ideas on discord?
>>580406I'm not a fan of this guy at all, that one model base doesn't look good and all of the characters are using it.
>>589928sure ill bite
>>589928I'm up for this as well
>>590235>>590259>>590336Sorry for late reply.Here is my tag,Naka#5050
>>590593Why not just make a server?
>>589928>>590235>>590259>>590336>>590593>>590635>/3/ can't do anything righthonestly doesn't surprise me.
>>590635I just wanted a friend to talk about ideas with.
>>590643Im not a huge fan of personal stuff, but I'd be glad to join a server.
I pledged to a patreon today just because he offered browser-based 3d scene contentbeing able to rotate the camera around a live scene is so much better than SFM shit (not to mention it's animated better because not SFM)do this and make porn and you'll be plenty popular
>>590643I agree with >>590678 . Just based on this thread here means that we could make up a decent community if we organized a server.
>>582510Needs an Unregistered Hypercam 2 -watermark.