Is Andrew Price /our guy/?
that looks like shit
>I took an image an image and pressed generate normal map and the result is just as shit as expectedAm i missing something here? In what universe is a tile that bumpy, and grout convex? I can achieve a better result by blending multiple normals generated with photoshop filters, in about 5 minutes.
In the video he says that that method looks like shit, he ends up using a displacement map with adaptive subdivision and it looks very good.
>>556593>>556604https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-quCLfoHbkThis is his newest video on how to make various tiles with some experimental Blender feature called geometry microdisplacement or something. The image in question appears earlier in the video where he exemplifies that, indeed, the method that most people use to make tiles is pretty pedestrian in that the various maps used during the texturing process don't take physical tile tilting into account.I mean, you wouldn't do this for a game because the geometry level get silly pretty fast, but the results are pretty convincing for renders.
Why bother with normal maps if it's not for a game? That would have looked good with a simple black and white bump map.
>>556611>tfw I use normal maps but honestly have no idea what the difference is between them and bump mapsI mean, I'm fine continuing working like this, but what is the advantage of a normal map? I know that other pros only ever use bump maps for very fine detail like micro-scratches.I don't work on games btw.
>>556618Bump maps are 8-bit grayscale maps that convey very simple height information: black pushes into the surface, white pulls away from the surface. Normal maps are a more modern approach to this, combining three separate color channels into a single RGB file which tells the application how the surface normals are oriented, which allows for a more detailed shading of a surface.Since neither of them displace geometry, both of them are essentially cheap optical illusions. That being said, if you can use a normal map, you should probably do so just because a normal map does what a bump map does but better, albeit slightly more expensively. Some situations don't require this map, such as when you're trying to convey very subtle surface detail along a distant surface, a bump map will serve you fine in these cases.If you're into ultra spergy photorealistic rendering like our friend Andrew, you'll probably use bump, normal and displacement maps all together along with metallic, roughness, AO, and a million others, laughing about how other people have to worry about hardware constraints while you're rendering stuff from your RYZEN supertoaster sporting two Titan XP's. Hope I could help.
>>556593>>556604it's because there's a pepe in the video you fucking mongoloids
>>556593>>556604>>556611>>556621>accuse Andrew of using a shit method>the video is actually about a different method because the crazybump method is shitYou retards should actually watch the video before you talk about it instead of making guesses based on a single out of context image. Fortunately this is an anonymous cantonese bulletin board service, so it doesn't matter, but in the real world if you were to do this, you'd make a fucking ass of yourself.
>>556630its the same crap, andrew endorses some company in his video like he always does.in blender you can bake normal from displacement node in cycles.
>>556621Why are displacement maps still greyscale? Why can't something similar to a normal map be used or created?
>>556676What you're thinking of is Vector Displacement.https://renderman.pixar.com/view/vector-displacementshttp://docs.pixologic.com/user-guide/3d-modeling/exporting-your-model/vector-displacement-maps/
>>556630God I can imagine a /3/ meetup at SIGGRAPH or something. Autistic sperging and calling everyone's papers shit.
>>556678Oh that's neat!
>>556630Not sure why you think I'm accusing Andrew of using a shit method. I've watched the video twice prior to this, and my answer to the anon who asked the normal vs bump question is completely unrelated to it.
>>556578Andew price is a hack.Most people would move on from Blender and pick up Maya, Max or Modo.Instead he just producing garbage everyday with blender and photoshop stuff.I cannot believe people follow his advice. He should pick up substance instead messing around with this garbage.Saying thanks to Andrew Price a few idiot artist are kept out of the industry because they listen to him.
>>556710>BLENDER SUCKS WAAAH
>>556694Your answer was good, but I took umbrage at your assertion that it's "spergy" to use basic maps and textures for archviz>>556681Someone will literally post a master work (whether 3d, 2d, book, film, music, whatever) and someone on 4chan will say "it's shit"
I like it when he puts out a tutorial filled with bullshit, gets called out by people who know what they are talking about and has to post a new one with updated and correct content.
>>556861Everyone should do this, there are too many stubborn smart people that don't want to look dumb.
>>556861Well, isn't that a good thing? Better to leave the bullshit on the table.
>>556861i actually like his tutorials about color,photography and composition. he has his theory down. but he makes blender artists dependent on HIM, which is not good
>>556904>he makes blender artists dependent on HIMHow so?
>>556907Poliigon mostly, his artists create materials in designer to lure blender users.not saying cycles can do the same shit designer does, but you can close with some guidance and some patience.also in his tutorials he promotes downloading textures his team made, so you can only complete the tutorials if you download them
>>556908He provides the textures and nodes he uses in his tutorials for free in the video descriptions. As for shilling poliigon on every video now, well the man has to sell his fish somehow or else, people wouldn't really have a reason to use that over cgtextures. And I mean, the guy apparently hires pro photographers to make the textures for him so the stuff is at least guaranteed to be of pretty good quality.
>>556911He has no morals. He's all about selling this, selling that. He doesnt even use GIMP - he uses fucking evil $$$ photo$hop
>>556912Australians have been known to value pragmatism
>>556912Differentfag here.I don't care much about him shilling his stuff. He is a business man after all. I think I remember him stating that he went to school for a business major or something. HOWEVER, some of the products he makes (pro lighting skies/studio) are only geared towards Cycles users which is a bad decision not because >Cycles shitposting, but because it limits your buyers and to me it says that he only cares about Cycles users. For example I downloaded the pro lighting skies demo and it came with a file that had the .exr files in it. I tried to use them in another renderer and they just don't work (pic related is what I get) but they work just fine in Cycles.Secondly I do agree that most of his tutorials that have came out recently are practically just advertisements for his products. Which I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't something that was already covered in an older tutorial.Also what's wrong with him using Photoshop?
>>556949>Also what's wrong with him using Photoshop?absolutely no point in using paid software and then ranting about how good free software is. Gimp is perfectly viable
>>556950>no point in using paid software and then ranting about how good free software isGood point I guess.
>>556949actually cycles material vault looks really good. it comes with materials that rico made over the years
>>556950>Gimp is perfectly viablewhen are we getting basic shit like adjustment layers anyway, or smart objects
>>556968>smart objectsadobe marketing at its finest
>>556966I didn't say anything about Cycles's materials. That's a different argument on its own.
Just use Krita, she's way cuter than Wilber will ever be and photoshop doesn't even have a mascot.https://sketchfab.com/models/3d07464889c14124883c3fe75f3a6640We all know software worth is measured in mascots, don't lie to yourselves.
>>557003*Kiki's way cuter
>>557003This, also Krita and blender are used to make the best and cutest free as in freedom webcomic.http://www.davidrevoy.com/article305/tons-of-potions-part-1-3d
>>556593Another day on /3/ another unemployed person calling paid work shit.
>>556578dam id love to be paid to just make textures all dayi know its so time consuming but i enjoy it a lot
>>556609amazing for arch viz
>>556950>paying for ps when you can pirate
>>556609what a piece of shit
>>557288What am I supposed to see here?
>>557289Oh no, a slightly bent seat.Oh no, I don't like depth of field effects.
>>556627back to /pol/ with you
>>557288Yeah the tuts on the tile effect, but you bitch about two pointless other things. Doesn't provide evidence that you can do better. YOU'RE the piece of shit.
>>557504doesn't matter, it's shit. he was too lazy to at least fix it post-prod. gets all relaxed, and then other standards begin to fall
>>557477>pepe is only for /pol/>muh alt-right mascotNice try, Hillary.
>>557288Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, it's supposed to look like that?
>>558097>>557329The wooden beams under the seat aren't aligned, fools.
>>558102They're aligned to the feet on the sides. The wooden beams themselves could just be an irregular shape, something like a trapezoid, that look like it's only aligned to the feet but actually touches and is nailed to the seat as well.Regardless, your levels of sperg are unacceptable. I'm afraid you're going to have to go out, take a walk, and learn not to worry about mindless, inconsequential things that the human eye likes to simplify. When you come back, write me a 500-word essay on how it's bad to be a sperg.
>>556837So true. People on here call professional work shit all the time. Boggles my mind. I'd say if you are an artist produce what you want and if people like good. If not who cares.
>>556950GIMP is great but doesn't touch Photoshop.ive used both and if I have to choose PS easily wins.
>>558102Lol. I went to college for 3d. We had a teacher who would take points off your grade if he thought the thing you modeled looked incorrect even if you had it spot on to the reference. Are you him?
>>558328It's just psychological terror to make new people break their motivation thinking they'll never make it, as to dry out the currently saturated pool of 3d artists.
>>558328>people on here call professional work shit all the time. Boggles my mindtheres a lot of professional work thats shit. Like Biowares newest game