Best thing you made using cheapest most bare bones equipment/software. Go.
>>551124Original one looks more like the actress. The one on the right looks nothing like her. I'm sure Bioware could have made a generic pretty female model with no characteristics as well.
>>551124Look up focal length before you make retarded ass thread.Also left one model shoots clearly lack shadows and ao that will be present in game, painting them in by hand is proving shit allEther do a pain over within the same limitations of the render on the left or fuck off with your manipulative crapthis is a cg board, not your crappy /v/ thread, im starting to think we needs mods here again
>>551128the one on the left looks friggin ugly.
>>551137People are ugly.
>>551137isn't ugly, camera is fucked on the left
>>551124Not kidding: pic related is somewhere from 2003.
>>551124dicking around in source filmmaker = taking someone else's model/textures and somehow being proud of it?
ill be honest both of them look subparbut i prefer the left one. not bad looking for realtime
>>551124prettier =/= betterYou will have to learn this if you ever get into a job, the art director knows what they want and if they ask for a human-looking-human and you give them super-attractive-looking-human thinking that it's "better", you're out. The right has added makeup and significant changes to the face. - which since the model is supposed to resemble a live actress, goes back to the point above.Also the focal lengths look different, right definitely used a lower focal length which makes a persons face look flatter (and nose smaller)
>>551196This, Bioware uses 3D scanners for the majority of their modeling. The head on the left was probably a scan from a real actress just like how all the human and asari heads from Mass Effect 1-3 were scanned from actors.
>>551124right one is better
>>551196Say that to Hollywood.
>>551223Hollywood is a terrible role model.
>>551196The angle and expression really hurt it too.
>>551156i like how the face almost looks good and then you see the side view
I am not really sure wether an extreme camera distortion makes a face less attractive or not though
>>551267It has a big impact.
>>551200Who ever is scanning needs to get fired...Actually the entire art team needs to get fired, especially whoever does the animations.
>>551304art team is competent.Art direction is bad.
>>551146That's why I like to look at 3D instead of people. Why does 3D have to be ugly, too?
>>551444Some devs want everything look realistic and pander certain group of females, so saggy granny tits and ugly faces are their choice, else someone might hurt their feelings because video game character looks more sexy than themselves.
>>551459damn anon, thanks for redpilling us
>>551459This is by far the dumbest thing ever said about art direction.>if it doesn't pander to my tastes it means devs are pandering to UGLY feeeeeeeeeemalesWhen will /v/ leave?
but did you give her nice boobies
>>551290Left to right progression from Aryan Goyim to Muh Sheckles.
>>551536That's hilarious bro.
>>551124GRAPHICS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH YET TO MAKE ANATOMIC ANOMALIES YET FUCKING FAGGITS IT JUS TLOOKS SHIT THEN
>>551128>I'm sure Bioware could have made a pretty female modelHave you ever played a recent Bioware game?
>>551124I swear this originally said "in photoshop">people saying left looks better than right just to be contrarian hipster retardsFuck off retards.
>>552399i swear when did 4chan becomw reddit 2?
>>552399THE EYES LOK AT THE FUCKING EYES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
deluxepaint IV on the amiga, rhino, and gif construction set.
>>552399it did. these assholes totally took the bait>reading these comments
Can we pls talk about this issue on the left in a humanoid tone of voice
>>551482Lad, beta males are pro-feminist and cucks, get your facts straight you fucking shill.
>>553743>Lad, beta males are pro-feminist and cucks, get your facts straight you fucking shill.
>>553753What kind of stereotype is that you dumb SJWtard
>>553906>thinks im whiteThanks for confirming youre a drooling SJWtard
>>553743>beta>cuck>shill>muh anti-sjw memewordsYou are the beta male anon.
>>553906>le /paul/ memehi SJWtard
>>551482>buy bitcoin at 200>goes up to 400>wait>goes down to 200>sell of fear>goes up to 1200 by today, not a major crash inbetween
>>551128They could have just scanned her face instead of pulling this mickey mouse bullshit.
>>551124Ilove original design... she looks so awesome and different, that gives her the character and she;ll be memorable, your version is toned down and blend version of her, which looks like random 3d female model, you won't be good character artist ever, maybe you'll be able doing background random people in streets, that's how your version looks, ook upcharacter artists and good comic book characters, they no one is trying to create perfect medium, it won't be memorable
>>554528Different? She looks like she's a downy.
>>554468>Mickey Mouse bullshit Kek
>>554528again, OP here. I didn't make the image. it's a meme taken from twitter to trigger /3/ neckbeards. i don't even 3D
>>551124yeah op, but mine 'explain this' thinking is asking - when did the original came to be and when did the software you used came to be?no offense to high quality of work as it can be seen.
>>551196That fucking retard, he would shit on a plate and call it steak because the chef said so. Yeah have fun running that restaurant for more than a few hours.
>>551124The studio tried to get as close as possible to the actual model, which they achieved successfully with all the facial imperfections. If they wanted they could have easily done celebrity faces, people they wanna feature, or just a specific face that tell a story.Where as SFM retards can't do dick other than a generic tryhard female model that DAZ gave out for free years ago. That anon couldn't have done shit if you asked for a specific face model.
>>556344That video is about the whacky animations when we're talking about the likeness of the models...
>>556390Let's cut the chase here, they both look tepid.
>>551124I am a master
>>556328Oh wow I wonder why Kojima doesn't make them look like Shrek? You're right it's totally a stylistic choice. If they made Big Boss look like Shrek it would've sold way better. You're right about SFM so many newfags are gonna be ripping these superior models to make their repugnant filth.
>>556403>video games can't have characters that aren't attractive to meYour life sounds incredibly boring
If they wanted to have an average attractive female character why didn't the capture/scan/model their character after an average attractive model? I don't see the reason in choosing this model only to make her less attractive, while copying the male model as accurately as they could? IF they would have good animations it wouldn't be so strange and uncanny, but the combination is a huge sign of incompetence. I stick with Hanlon's razor:"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
>>556415Can you make it say: Buy Ethereum.Please...
>>551124I think bioware is gay and the girl is ugly too butshopping an already existing model in 2D picture =/= making or editing the modelonly thing that bothers me desu
Honestly the left looks more anatomicaly correct and like a character, no wonder you guys wont ever get a job doing character modeling.Its obvious that they gave her some imperfections not present on the original model but that makes her stand out more.The real crime her are her autismal animations and bad blendshapes
>>556461Here's the tutorialhttps://youtu.be/n4_0nNZSWdw
>>551124You blind fool!This whole thing has been a ruse from the very beginning. The team made a whole fake game that will be switched out on day one. The actual game is something unlike anything your small mind can comprehend. The creative team behind a key part of the project discovered methods to bring forth visual qualities unlike any seen in any game ever made before. Things that used to be science fiction, only written about in Snowcrash or Ready Player One and seen in the Ghost in The Shell anime. They combined a certain perfected 4K flickering effect, which mimics Brion Gysin's stroboscopic hallucination machine. It uses Binaural Beats to enhance the auditory faculties of the player and heavily affect the mood of each scene. Forget VR this game utilizes Hyper Immersive Reality which doesn't require any extra equipment. It triggers the release of chemicals in the brain which tell it what the mind is supposed to see. This game visually, will be the ultimate most epic advanced game our current day technology can produce. You bought into the heavily distributed ploy, but that's ok. That's what you were supposed to do. Behold! Feast your eyes on this amazing impeccable animation, the heights of which have never before been reached proving once and for all that OP is a fag:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHh3Mz5NCMI
>>556847it will certainly be a mind bending experience
>>556903Wtf is going on there
>>556847MC is a PAWG
>>556903If I were the animator on this I would kill myself
>>556328that look like shit cuz
>>551125Could it be jealous obese land whales, were jealous of the more attractive model and made her as unflattering as they could?
The problem with the face is that her eyes are not right. The irises look like they're pasted on similar to how some people wear colored contact lenses or like Jason Mamoas Aquaman. This triggers the uncanny valley effect since irises in reality are slightly concave and recessed behind the lens and light falls on them a certain way. They made her eyes look bugged out too...like there's no occlusion from the upper eyelids, the lower lid isn't there, and the eyes have a waxy appearance. Of all the features on the face the eyes are the most important...and the most obvious when you get them wrong.In this pic all i did was mess with the eyes.
>>557271it really made a huge difference. nice to (sorta) meet the anon who made the original
>>557271Nose and definetly the mouth look fucked up to. Like her lips go to her back molars lol
>>552510>gif construction setboy that brings me back
>>554663>it's a meme>lol u trolled
>>552510your lemarchand's cube is pretty kick ass
>>557328The right side looks better, if you make something that looks like the left and you aren't new to cg you should consider suicide.
>>554528People outside of /3/ don't complain about the model as much as they complain about the animation. You could probably make that model work if you were competent in animation.
>>553753Alt-right hate blacked.com
>>556406Making it super important is retarded, though.The old man from MGS V wasn't attractive.
>>558378Don't talk about Kojima like that
>>551223Hollywood isn't involved here.
>>558377Suuuuuuuure. It's web traffic totally didn't increase when it become a meme around /pol/ or anything.
>>551124That HAS to be corporate sabotage...
>>551196That's the thing, i don't blame the artist, but the very SJW director you mentioned because that person wanted some ugly flob as female main character. Western games were already moderate enough when it comes to beauty, so why make it worse. First they destroyed real art with "modern art", now they are doing their best to destroy aesthetics in videogames with "realism", aka lesbian main characters who look like face stomped 12 year old try hard boys and have pink colored hair that is shaved halfway.
>>558425>I have no proof or anything but I check all threads on /pol/ and blacked traffic data daily and it totally happened you guys.you libtards are getting more desperate each day lmao
>>557248My personal guess is that by making their games suck in many ways, they no longer have to keep raising the bar.By screwing up intentionally, they no longer have to keep improving. Now when they do their usual thing, everyone takes it as an upgrade.Not to mention, they can always just blame this on the SJWs. So if they have ugly females and the game doesn't sell, it's just "the patriarchy". If they have gays and the game doesn't sell, it's just "homophobia", etc. Good excuses to keep jobs.
>>551128>generic pretty female model with no characteristics as well.You're kidding, right?Which one is closer to the goal?
>>558466The original one clearly.
>>558466Neither?The original one is obviously fucking garbage but the other one just looks better, it's not closer to the real thing.
>>558469>the actual 3D scanned one doesn't look like the real thing>the actual 3D scanned then modified to look like an asian frog looks more like the real thingCan't tell if geniunely retarded or trolling. Do you think mona lisa with shitty instagram filters look more like the actual mona lisa?
>>558471Yeah, I'm sorry for having the wrong opinion, clearly Bioware has literally employed da Vinci to make that face.
>>558474>can't identify the metaphor in a sentence.oh boy...
https://youtu.be/2fyfaZB5NXIthis shit was in 2003 on the ps2 from a team of 13 people locked in a broom cupboard with a zx spectrum at konami.
>>558476Go cry in the corner fuckin binky ass baka baby. The big boys are talking.
>>558432anyone worth trusting knows that.people who claim to "like" it are shills. they benefit from it being a toxic waste fire, in one way or another.
>>558564no tears now brainlet.
>>556403Because Kojima is notoriously sexist and objectifies women with giving them big tits in half naked dresses? Whats the matter, are you not used to seeing women without your bigoted libido glasses ?
>>558758>Because Kojima is notoriously sexist Yeah. We need men like him and Yoko Taro in the gaming industry now, more than ever.If you think that what he did with Quiet was outrageous, wait until you see what he can do with some REAL curves.
>>558760lmao I was kidding. If anything we need more """sexist""" game makers. the rage of ugly insecure landwhales who can't stop eating is irrelevant.whats the the Quiet though, what happened there?
The plot thickens.
>2017>Still, wanting to play EA games
>>558762yeah what's up with quiet? he might've tried basing it off of a female he knew and respected. i highly doubt it was intentionally sjw
"They wanted to make the character like the real model"Dont know what model some of you guys are talking about, clearly wasnt the girl ive seen here.If you have studyd anatomy you wold see that their original characterr got so many male structure. The nose, eyes, proportion, mouth, head, the skull. All points to a male and not a female character.Even the real girl got everyhing right and normal as it naturaly should be! 3 years doing classes, reading anatomy books, about culture, about people around the world, likeness stuff, and i got a better experienc than these guys... waste of money
>>551124>mfw Jayde Rossi looks exactly like that in normal lighting conditions.
>>551124I believe they literally put a camera an inch away from the actors' faces. That's why the proportions are so warped.
>>559099>>558471I think the big difference is caused by the Jayde uses makeup, photoshop, and lighting conditions.What causes her to look like shit in game is an issue with texturing and animation.
>>558412kojima is a fuktard and youre a retard for liking anything he makes
>>559110the proportions are fucked for animation's sake. Facial features are exzaggerated to make emotions more pronounced. you can see her retarded mug is smiling for attention a mile away
>>558469>But steel is heavier than feathers
>>558760>tfw gay>tfw into bears>tfw this is the first time a 3d model turns you on
>>560186You need help, and this is coming from one gaywad to another.
>>560261Bears are hot, as long as they're muscle bears and not just hairy fat guys who let themselves go.Bara4life
what incentive do people have to defend the left?
>>560186>>560316>>560261i would finger bang guillermo del toro hard
No one remembers?
>>551124damn how did anon make those eyes look that good
>>560821>play Mass Effect 2>Miranda is fucking hot>find out she's modeled after Yvonne Strahovski>maybe she has a hot body just like in the game>mfw she's completely flat
guys stop making fun of Bioware's artistic integrityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Oh76SiHzs&index=31&list=FLPRz_ax27vvhef_2V62N2TQ
>>556489Man jaws aren't anatomically correct. I bet you enjoy western garbage like injustice or mkx
>>558779They outsourced it to a feminist that just got out of the art institute
>>551482uuu a cuck got so angry
I've been doing freelance on the side for about 8 years now but I still think my Leaving Cert DCG project is the best thing I've ever doneI mean sure it's not a great render and the textures are flat but I think he's neat
>>551124I think, more than the model itself, is that the animation quality for Sister Ryders face is just terrabad, slightly less bad after the 1.05 update, but that's like saying, 'despite killing 6 million jews, Hitler found the cure for cancer, so hey, that's something'.There are few, and I mean like, 8 moments in the game where the facial animation made me think I was watching real people in a movie. Those few moments totally sucked me in, and I loved it. The rest of the facial animations, well you know. To sum it up, it feels like the characters are lifeless, female MC especially. While I'd rather play as the OP photo on the right, because qt, I would have been equally happy to play stock sisRyder had the facial animations as a whole had been on par with those few golden moments.>pic not related, just used for visibility
>>553906get lost sjw fag
>>558425is your wife with lebron again anon? It's okay we're here for you. Why don't you post that shitty model your working on again?
>>551128>"generic with no characteristics">instead they made her as noticeable as possiblePeople can't be "generic," dipshit
>>562840>'despite killing 6 million jews, Hitler found the cure for cancerEveryone always glosses over that second part but i think it was important imo
>>563014Seems like a thing that would come up in conversation more often, don't it?
>>556920Whole game is just like this. Actually, some scenes manage to be even worse
>>558762the one game babe I've never fapped to because her face is strikingly similar to my sister. Thanks a lot for that, Kojima.
>>559588I'm pretty the guy that took the face reference photos goofed up and placed the cameras an inch away from the models' faces because the faces look like they are perspective distorted.
>>560329Eww I bet you would do it with the hellboy hand prop
>>551124Looks like an After/Before pic of a crystal meth user.
>>563752EA... not even once
>>551124Had they made the one on the right they would still have a job.
>>563955Which is why you shouldn't outsource your main character models
Nice thread guys
>>562789>how about I slap your shit
>>557271No, they made everything round and feminine, but firm and asexual so people wouldn't find her sexually appealing, because the developers are a bunch of cucks.
>>558412do you rike it
So it was an intentional decision to make the CG ugly/styled?
>>551124>Source filmmaker>Source filmmaker>Source filmmaker>Source filmmaker>Source filmmaker>Source filmmaker
>>558758>Makes beautiful woman>This makes him sexistLmao what the fuck are you smoking. Ever female character he's created has been body postive.Are you saying women shouldn't be happy with being attractive?
>>558471>Implying you can't fuck up facial scanning
>>558466Ok let's stop right here.First, original is garbage, and the argument "camera lense" is completly wrong. Come on do you needs glasses ?Second, make a character in a video game, or even in a movie not mean IMITATING a real person : When Elijah Wood is playing Frodo going to Mordor, This is NOT Elijah Wood going to Mordor, its Frodo. In a video game is the same, You create a character FOR THE GAME and STORY.Third : This "revolutionnary" motion capture system is just a LAZY technique for dev and editors. Take inspiration from IRL is good, but you are in a virtual world, a fiction, like a movie. When Maggie Smith play the role of Minerva McGonagall, she's a old and quite powerfull witch, not just Maggie Smith with a magic wand. I'm not very clear sorry but I think you understand the main idea.Personnaly I don't really care to have Big boobs gorgeous Hot babe in a game ( there's mods for that XD ) or a movie, or whatever fiction, but I want deep characters with own personnality, own history and their own full of life face ( not a generated face like Fallout or Skyrim ( Even I love these two franchises ), except for useless NPCs ) like mass effect 3, Mafia II, Sleeping Dogs ( old good time... ) or GTA V. Strangely quite good games.Games are shitty now, lazy and souless. And ALL the characters of Mass Effect Andromefail are souless, that the real problem. And, with the gameplay, its the most important thing in a whatever fiction.ps : sorry for bad english not my native language
>>568728Ah, I remember when games were the pinnacle of emotional and spiritual depth. What ever happened to this once creative endeavour?
>>551124>>551125>Andromeda memeThe model isn't the issue with the game, it's the animation. Even when it isn't bugging out it's disgusting, they didn't even lipsync properly:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWkao73HuUThat said, the face looks fine when it's still. The image on the right is just generic. It's good, and it's clearly got a better resource/output ratio if it was really made in just fifteen minutes, but I still feel like I'm looking at a "base" or something. And I'm not just saying that because I prefer characters to look ugly, silent is pretty good looking and her face doesn't have this issue at all (>>558762). I'm totally fine with characters looking attractive, it's just that I don't want to feel like I'm looking at a magazine cover. Makes me feel like I'm being lied to or sold something.>>559588This, thank you.
>>568765It looks like they went for very realistic faces and then relied on a broken motion capture system or something. Its great though, this is hilarious.
>>568777nice jackpot roll>a broken motion capture system or somethingActually in a lot of the frames the eyebrows just don't move at all. Like look at around 2:10. The speaker puts huge emphasis on the "O" when they correct the protagonist and say "to whOm!", but their mouth makes an O shape for only a split second, and their eyebrows don't come out with it. And on top of that, they just blink and look around as though the top and bottom half of their faces weren't both part of the conversation, when their actual tone implies they ought to be staring you down.It's kinda like in run and gun games where animators will basically turret the top half of your body so that the top half only has to respond to mouse inputs while the bottom only has to respond to WASD, except instead of dividing you at the beltline (which isn't a big deal in a shooter, especially if you're wearing a bigass suit of fantasy armor anyway), they completely divided each part of the face. Nothing ever moves in unison.
>>558762Based off of Stephanie Joosten, a European voice actress and model living in Japan.Kojima tipped off the press into believing there was a story-based reason for why Quiet is mostly wearing nothing, doesn't ever speak to Big Boss, gets trapped into damsel-in-distress multiple times in the story, and becomes a love interest despite there being no reasom for it.>she has superpowers and photosynthesis through her fucking skin, she has to be nude or else she'll suffocate
>>568757that is amazing work.
Western game devs make are too lazy to make a female model that looks like a person.Meanwhile the eastern ones...Pic is from PS2 game
>>568985Hi poly render does not make up for shitty in-game which describes The Room. Eileen is super cute though.
>>556415actual keked from this, thanks
>>568999The Room and other PS2-era Silent Hills only used diffusemaps, but still looked better than 90% of these modern day amalgamations of dozens of textures and eldritch shader networks.
>>569076>The Room looks better than modern day gamesLook man, im as nostalgia high as you are for old games, but wanting to go back to the days of diffusemaps and bump maps as compared to today of seamless workflows from Quixel to UE4 is just insane
>>569200I've waited more than 20 years to see piss poodles on the floors and skid marks on the walls of my video games.
>>551482try harder faggot
>>551146Fuck the ugly people when I'm playing my video games. It's the SJW culture that's suddenly telling devs that they gotta make women ugly and "realistic" (because hot chicks don't exist ever), or else they'll suffer the wrath of social media lynching.
>>569200My point was basically that in the past everything was in the diffuse map. Silent Hills had borderline photorealistic characters because the texturework was phenomenal. We don't see that stuff in today's games. As much as I love the jumps we've made in graphics technology, every aspect of the new stuff is still highly unfinished so even the most HD subsurface scatteringly delicious head comes off as plasticy and weird even in still shots. Devs are trying way too hard to make every aspect of the character extremely high detailed with all these experimental and unpolished elements stitching them together. It's a mess. The only game that's come close to nearly perfect photorealism is Until Dawn, and even then the animations are often crazy exaggerated or way too motion capture-y.I just have a disgusting boner for PS2-era stuff because they had huge limitations in grapics and still managed to create something that holds up today almost perfectly.
>>568985Those colours are uncanny as fuck.
wow this thread is edgy as fuck
>>556328meh, the ingame model isnt THAT bad, still a 6/10 if it were a real woman in her 30's
>>556328>those ugly inflated street whore lipswhy not hire an attractive model?
>>552510>tfw recently marathoned all the hellraisers
>>556328sorry, not sorry. Does not look like the real woman at all. Looks like they gave the 3d model bad makeup on purpose after bludgeoning her face indestinguishable with a bag full of oranges.
>>569955>bludgeoning her face indestinguishable with a bag full of oranges.you sure mean a sock full of coins, not a bag of orange juice.
>>558457Very this.All this pandering to the ppl who feel bad that they have to try hard to be pretty. The reason beauty is valuable is because not every person has it. So when we put ourselves into FANTASIES, we like them to also be filled with beauty. If they really wanted realism then all the space scenes would be flat blackdrop with pinpoint stars. no fucking rediculous rainbow nebulas that halfway wrap around a planet, because thats dumb, planets are always moving. But no they choose to make space pretty and cool, but deliberatly chose to make the characters look meh. That's be like having michael C reilly be the main star in something like 50 shades of grey. Sure in reality it probably pssible for him to romance someone, but if wanted to watch a fictional movie about it, it'd rather it be someone in their prime who s trying to look good.Like jonah hill here, he is a fine looking man whom all the bitches want to get down with.
>>566277>Are you saying women shouldn't be happy with being attractive?this is pretty much what young people in society are being brainwashed into. at least in big cities where everything is 10x more severe
>>551124you guys don't get itthey were trying to put dysgenics into the game - you'll see it more and moresjw-face, they're trying to normalize itthere is an epigenetic shift in the population being caused by a divergence in those who watch the truth about the world, and those who are spoon fed the right mix of news over social media.these stresses, and lack of, combined with plastics in food and cosmetics, lack of micronutrients in processed foods, elevated lead levels and other shit the gov is controlling is creating this ugliness on the leftand this is an actual game company trying to promote ugliness as an idea in their gameit's so fucking it's beyond belief
>>569990i actually get it. millennials are the most insane and fucked up generation so it doesn't come as a surprise.this generation will be remembered for things like excessive dog loving and gender fluidity. im surprised the boomer generation raised us so badly ill be honest. given that they were the generation after WW2
>>569990>browses cringeanarchy once
>>551196>>551200holy shit, shills on /3/fucking hellshould visit more oftenno, this was entirely intentional - they are trying to spread the idea of dysgenics and ugliness as goodthey are putting asymmetry and unhuman ideas into their work and passing it off as "normal"it's gross
>>571123>This is what /pol/ actually believes
>>558466I heard that new age games are going for very "gender Nutural" people, this is towards th facial features like in this character here. that very square jaw
>>573245>new age games>gender neutralhow retarded are you to take SJWtard memes seriously? this is the only game that tried a little bit of that and now it's globally despised.
>>573246all I did was state the obvious. what are you so angry about? your gender?
>>573249>all I did was state the obvious.so did I. I guess you're the one who got angry over your failed agenda.
Where do I add the "do not push"- option?I was triggered to post a reply.