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Is a 3D mouse like the Space Mouse really worth the price tag? 300-400 bucks sounds like a really steep price for what appears to be a Joystick mounted between a bunch of hotkeys.

I'm wondering if a budget conscious person couldn't just take, say, a Razer Orbweaver Gaming Keypad, and map all the hotkeys to say, keyboard shortcuts in 3ds Max or Maya or something?
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>>543233
Would one of these be just as good I wonder?
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>>543233
>>'m wondering if a budget conscious person couldn't just take, say, a Razer Orbweaver Gaming Keypad, and map all the hotkeys to say, keyboard shortcuts in 3ds Max or Maya or something?

this is precisely what i do anon and i fucking love my setup now..... pictures to follow
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>>543248

I use these three Logitech dudes in conjunction with each other. (Although the full size keyboard doesn't get used much at all now since I added the G13 gameboard)
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>>543249

I bought the G510s just out of curiosity because it was in a sale - £70 down from over £100.

I got into programming macros and having it automatically switch profiles and I was hooked... it sped me up so much... so i expanded
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>>543250

Then this guy - the G600 MMO mouse sent it over the top...

I now mainly have viewport navigation shortcuts on the mouse with a few exceptions and then on the G13 I have the more specific tools...
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>>543250
>>543249
So were you able to get the thumbstick to replacate the behaviour of the 3d mouse more or less? can you spin shit around in zbrush/maya etc? how difficult was it to do? Thanks for contributing
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>>543251

I've become so dependent on that mouse that I got really paranoid about it breaking so I bought a spare which I got in a flash sale on Amazon for £39 (should be £79!)
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>>543252

That's something I never actually tried. Tbh the thumbstick on this thing doesn't feel so great to the touch.

I have a kinda retarded use for the thumbstick if I'm honest - it's now my 'undo' shortcut. I know - I'm a retard but I just tried it one day, having that little stick sitting there and the moment i make a mistake in anything - just a little flick of the thumb on that stick undoes it.

I know it sounds fucking stupid but i actually really like it. Flicking it in other directions doesn't feel so good so i barely use anything else mapped to it.
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>>543255
Whatever works for you man. inspired to pick one up. cheers!
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>>543256

I got mine on eBay for £40 and it was like new. Plenty people buy them, don't like them, and flip them on ebay in brand-new condition for half the price.
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What make and model do you think is best to get
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>>543274

What... programmable game boards? There aren't many on the market.

Logitech only have one as far as I know - the G13 and Razer make one which a lot of people seem to like.

I went with Logitech because I have other logitech gear and I like to be able to share my keybinds across different devices in the Logitech gaming software.

If you're not sure, buy used one on eBay - it's not like these things get hammered on or dropped or thrown around.
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>>543284
Yhyh I just started doing serious 3d modeling and was looking at a 3d mouse but they are a little pricey, and using a full size keyboard is annoying personally.
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>>543285

to be clear - i don't use this thing like a 3d mouse. I just find it to be a greatly improved method of input over a normal keyboard. the actual navigation stuff that a 3d mouse offers is not something i've tried to replicate.
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>>543289
Yes I'd be using it for a replacement keyboard as well if I was to get one
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OP here, and dude, I have to say: Out-fucking standing.

I use that exact same fucking mouse. (The g600) and I had no idea that logitech g13 came with an LCD screen like the Spacemouse Pro. I didn't even know logitech MADE a gamepad. Definitely going to save me roughly 300 dollars. I've been saving up for a spacemouse for ages yet but I'm a broke fuck neckbeard living in his sisters basement.

TY *SO* much for posting the keybinding layouts that you're using. Tbph I'm new to this stuff too. My best creation has been a fucking shitty snowman. But I'm looking for every way to improve and make a decent at-home living or maybe get an office job by working super hard at being a better artist.

Now I have a clear map for my future setup and I have confirmed that this idea would work. Ty ty ty
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>>543291

Yeah it works great for this esp. if you're using it with a tablet because it sits next To a large tablet really nicely.
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>>543306

You're welcome dude.

Some of the bindings I use in Max on both the game board and mouse are moderately complicated because they link to AutoHotKey scripts.

Specifically, I have a button th mouse called 'OrthoViewToggle' - with repeated presses, this cycles through the front, left, back and right or tho views.
Similarly, on the G13 I have a key which cycles through numbers 1-6, which allows me to change my sub-object selection type, and transform toggle, which cycles through the transform modes.

Logitech don't have a keystroke sequence cycle feature, so I had to write an AutoHotKey script to write these myself.

I can post the scripts and keybinds for them if you want? (Check back on the thread later today - I won't be able to reply until after work).
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>>543328
Is there a right sided version of this?
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>>543233
>paying 300 bucks for a handrest

just buy the spacenavigator and glue it to a piece of wood or something
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>>543351

I don't believe so, but all you'd be missing would be the thumbstick - it's completely symmetrically shaped laid out apart from that one thing, which I really have little use for.
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>>543364
its just 80 euros
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>>543250
>>543249
So is this thing a mouse AND keyboard or only macro-customizable keyboard?

>>543235
And what's this? any diffferent?
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>>543233
if you have to ask yourself the answer is probably no.
the cheaper navigator on the other hand might be worth considering if you want a fancy way to navigate in the view-port (works without their kinda wonky driver if you use Blender)
It's really easy to fine adjust a camera for example, and in blender it's possible to navigate with one hand on this and another one on a pen to sculpt while moving around a model that is kinda fun...
as for usage yeah I use it to fine adjust my view and sometimes just flying around/ screwing around
and in sculpting sometimes since I can scuplt and navigate at the same time (Blender)
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>300-400 $
>same price as a gtx 1070
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>>543233
The orbweaver is fundamentally different.

You can't pitch, yaw, roll, move laterally, vertically, forwards and backwards all with the same stick on an orbweaver.

Maybe a better analogy would be the difference between a spaceship and an airplane (a shit airplane that can only pitch and yaw) whilst the spaceship has six degrees of freedom.

That is the fundamental difference between a 3D mouse and something like an orbweaver



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