Considering you need to do a low poly, let's say almost 1000 polys, is it convinient to do high poly first and then project detail? Cause you know, maybe it would be quicker to just do the low poly and directly texture it, adding the detail on texture painting intead of projecting? what do you think?>pic related, just this one is 336 polys, I guess no normals used, just plain texturing, and it looks quite good
>>526597>336 polysI literally counted < 100 polygons on that car mate
>>526598I think he means triangles. Yes op high poly first then retopo.
>>526598>>526599yeah my bad I meant trisSo even with very low poly objects? Is it better?
>>526601I mean, what's the purpose of modeling a complete high poly object if I have a strict limit for my low poly and I will need to remove 99.9% of details
>>526602why such a limit? Phones are literally running this now and every year phones get more powerful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnKu7MLB7vQ
unless you are making mobile games exclusively there is no point to limit yourself like thati have a 4 year old phone that can run max payne on high fps.id imagine people that exclusively do lowpoly is because they have great 2D skills and like the handpainted style in the first place
>>526603>>526607Why are you saying useless shit instead of staying in-topic and answering questions?who gives a fuck why he has a limit, he just has it
>>526610i thought its pretty obvious that projecting detail from normal maps is usually done to capture more realism and handpainting is more prone to stylized stuff >what is quickerdepending on what you practice more. it still takes weeks to finish a high end character on both spectrum
>>526610>useless shit>literally every phone coming out is far more powerful than his example specpick one
>>526597that car had no high poly version. when something is below 1000 polys there is no need of creating a high poly version. unless you are batshit crazy/masochist.
>>526613>pick oneyou only say that when you have two mutually exclusives, newfag.
>>527235ThisAlso depends on the look you are going for. If you are creating something like World of Warcaft models, there is absolutely no need for a highpoly model since all of the details are painted on with the texture.At least I highly doubt they make highpoly models of their in-game objects.In the end it's something you have to get a feel for yourself, and know even before you start how you should approach a model to make it look the best.
>>527242nowadays they do. at the begginning they did not. They also had to remake all the old shit with normal maps, but they did not use high poly to bake maps THEY FUCKING PAINTED THE NORMAL MAPS BY HAND. i saw this girl from polycount that was doing this job years ago posting the process there.
>>526597S14? Is this for Stuner or something?
>>527292not hims14 has been in s-tuner for over 2 years now
>>527314People still make new aero pieces for the game though
>>526597Idealy yes; you should create a full poly model (usally through sculpting) first before creating one that were optimized for the desired platform to bake onto. But that depends on the desired artstyle.
>>527253Texture baking and normal maps arrived at the same time more or less. While people have always painted normals by hand it's always been a deliberate option to do so, not something you where forced to do by any technical limitation.
>>527475>idealyi don't know about you but sculpting and baking a car takes alot of time in sense of production
>>527482To realize why you would ever wanna do a normal map by hand it's like this: You can make your diffuse map first.This way you can be using any image sources, image editing tools and painting techniques. Not having to worry about matching any already existing surface. This free's up your creativity and massivly boost production times when making scores of props, clothing etc for games.The result wont be as polished and stellar as if you did highpoly sculpt bakes for everything, but in a production environment you simply don't havetime an tallent to make every piece of graphics a fine-arts tier 'hero piece' of a model.